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1462 10/25/2004 6:15:01 PM 10/26/2004 Dana Pearson jpear124@aol Dashboard defroster vents Since no one has answered my earlier question I will ask again.Does anyone know if the black plastic directional vents across the front of the dash are availible for an 82 Newell?

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1463 10/26/2004 2:33:17 PM 10/26/2004 GEORGE GIANNI GGIANNI@ROYALSANLEANDRO.COM 73 Coach Engine revs... Hello,
Yes this is too high an RPM. My Ford gas engine was running approx. 1800 Rpm at 58 mph in O.D...

I hope this helps,

George Gianni

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1464 10/26/2004 8:56:35 PM 10/28/2004 Jack Fortner jackfortner@charter.net Dashboard defroster vents I was at the factory in June 2004 and asked the same question and was advised that they were not available. Perhaps you could find an after market source.

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1465 10/28/2004 4:38:49 AM 10/28/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Dashboard defroster vents Newell has located a limited supply of the rectangualar air conditioner/defroster vents used on classic coaches in the 80s. Contact Gary Streeter at 1-888-3NEWELL.

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1467 10/29/2004 4:09:57 PM 10/30/2004 Bob Marlatt InsideGolf@cablespeed.com 73 Coach Engine revs... Barrett, my '73 coach with a 391 w/ 6-speed Allison runs 2700 at about 64 mph. I think it might be a linkage problem as I was told by a qualified mechanic that an 8th of an inch can make a lot of difference in shifting. You might check to see if there is any slop in the connection at the transmission. Mine was slightly loose and I had trouble shifting into reverse. I have a phone number of a good transmission specialist (in Seattle area) if you need it-perhaps just to talk to on the phone.

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1468 11/1/2004 12:43:28 PM 11/4/2004 shane crawford cradad1@aol.com 1986 Newell for sale I have a 87 38' 8V92 if you are interested.

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1472 11/8/2004 6:46:51 PM 11/10/2004 Bill wrssr@msn.com Air Brake Upgrade Hi Rich, I live in the Pacific Northwest. I own a 1974 Newell in excellent condition with a 3208 CAT. Saw your e-mail on TechTalk - I just did my wedge rear brakes. I am a retired mechanic - the first thing I did when I tore the brakes down was to removed the backing plate and left it off. I personally like wedge brakes because they always self-adjust. Every once in a while I check the threads on the automatic adjusters and blow them off with air and spray brake clean on. I've notices the brakes run a lot cooler. Have you done your brakes because I'm wondering if you had to replace any drums? If so, I understand we cannot buy replacements for the drums we are running. After some research I found a pretty popular drum that is used on semi trucks - that is a 3159 Gunite drum. I had to have some machine work done to move the drum in on the bearing hub by 3/8". The only thing I didn't have done, that I wish I would have had done, was to drill three 5/16" holes to align the drum center on the bearing hub. Will check on that number on the drum to make sure it is right. The cost of brakes and new bearing and seals wasn't bad. Feel free to e-mail me. Thanks, Bill

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1474 11/15/2004 1:37:23 PM 11/15/2004 David Read GoingIntl@AOL.COM TouchScreenSystemController Does Newell offer the ability to control all of the hi-tech systems via a single touch screen control panel? It would be nice to have a repeater at the opposite end of the coach, so I don;t have to walk to the other end of the coach in the middle of the night.

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1475 11/15/2004 2:39:10 PM 11/15/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com TouchScreenSystemController Our current general practice is to install two complete TV systems, front and rear, with a universal remote control for each. He can watch football, she can watch soap operas. We use repeaters anyway so that we can install components outside of line of sight. In the past, we have used repeaters front to rear, but found having the two complete systems is superior. For several years, we used Marantz touch screen remotes, similar to the Philips Pronto. We now use the Harmony SST-659. It is much simpler to program, especially for non-standard A/V components, and uses positive buttons which are easier than the touch screen to use accurately, especially for three digit DSS channel numbers. The Harmony is a great solution for virtually all motorhomes and home use as well. Go to www.harmonyremote.com

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1478 11/27/2004 8:22:22 AM 11/28/2004 Uwe Oberschelp oberuwe@netscape.net 91 newell Hi, Tech department.
We just purchased a 1991 42' Newell. The previous owner neglected a lot of things, so we have our work cut out for awhile!
I noticed when driving the coach a lot of play in the steering system. Could you give me any advice how to remedy
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Other than that, it is an awsome coach.

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1480 12/3/2004 3:47:36 PM 12/3/2004 Tom tomrosenkranz@yahoo.com Operating Costs What's been your operating costs for full timing in a 45 ft Quad?
Are there any published cost studies?

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1481 12/13/2004 8:56:08 AM 12/13/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net 12.5 Kw Genset I'm in need of a manual for a 1977 version of the Kohler 12.5 Kw genset in my wonderful Newell coach. In particular I need a wiring diagram for the control system. I want to add an intake air heater for winter starting. I'm happy to pay for copying and shipping. I'll also be happy to share my solution once I have it figured out.

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1482 12/14/2004 9:15:49 PM 12/16/2004 Bob Scott thescotts@proaxis.com Fire extinguishers With the ban on production of Halon, what type of fire extinguishers are being used in new coaches? It is my understanding that there are some companies that can service and recharge older Halon units. Is this a good way to go or is it better to use some of the newer gases? Any thoughts and ideas will be appreciated. Bob

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1483 12/15/2004 8:01:14 AM 12/16/2004 Don Koenig donkoenig@juno.com 12.5 Kohler Diesel Generator Over 3000 hrs on the unit. Had too much oil in the pan.
Replaced the lift pump. The unit no longer "makes oil".
Glad the problem was not the injector pump (more $$$).

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1484 12/16/2004 3:51:47 AM 12/16/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Fire extinguishers We continue to install halon fire extinguishers, which are legal and available through normal sources. They are EPA approved. Perhaps halon extinguishers are due to be removed from the market at some point in the future, although we are unaware of anything firm.

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1486 12/18/2004 1:53:51 PM 12/18/2004 ed thalmayer fts@rvwarehouse.com odometer Coach #460: the odometer is digital or appears to be, the numbers appear & disappear, hard to see at all. The speedometer works fine. Without tearing the dash apart to look for a bad ground, my diagnosis, is there another solution?

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1487 12/19/2004 4:27:38 PM 12/19/2004 Dan Niebojeski bojes@aol.com odometer Will be interesting to see any replies. My coach #577 has same problem but the engine hour display on the tachometer also flashes on and off. Not at the same time or with the same fequency as the odometer. I had asked the service dept. to look into this on my last two visits to Miami, but they said they didn't know where to start. Hope you have better luck. Dan

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1488 12/19/2004 6:03:28 PM 12/19/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com 12.5 Kohler Diesel Generator 1978 Newell Classic w/ 12.5 Kohler-Perkins. Mods made since my last post: All pieces made with 16ga. galvanized sheet metal. My research indicates that 120 sq. inches of opening is sufficient to cool the Perkins. I opened the radiator "grill" in the front by removing the lower portion of the aluminum "skin". I closed the upper area of the "grill" (down to the top edge of the bumper)by blocking it off on the back side with sheet metal. This panel is easily removable if I encounter extreme conditions that would require more cooling. I fabricated a panel to fit horizontally flat between the frame rails thus forcing the incoming air to be drawn in below the front bumper. This panel spans the area between the front of the body and the bumper. It is held in place with Velcro to allow quick removal for access to the generator "front panel." Since the opening is behind the bumper the modifications are not visible.

Next I removed the "case" from around the radiator. I built a metal "wall" between the radiator and the sides and top of the generator compartment. I fastened it to the flanges on each side of the radiator that held the "case" in place. I also braced it to the valve cover nut in the same place that the "case" was secured to as well. A hole was drilled in the proper area to allow the dipstick tube to protrude through to the front. The outside edge of this "wall" is surrounded with a 1" layer of foam to allow for movement and provide an air seal to the inside walls of the generator compartment. This mod will force the fan to pull cooler outside air in rather than pulling from behind the radiator. All of these panels had Sound Absorbant Foam glued to the side that faced the engine. My Newell had a sound/oil absorbant pan mounted below the generator engine. It was about 5" short (on each side) of reaching from one side of the generator compartment to the other. I fabricated a new wider pan then filled it with fiberglass insulation and topped it off with expanded metal to keep the fiberglass in place.
The next project was the air intake. I removed the oil bath air cleaner and put it in my personal museum (I dont throw anything away!!). I built a metal box 1.5" tall X 9" wide and as long as the valve cover. It contains baffles (like a muffler) and is mounted on top of the valve cover using the valve cover nuts. I used one of those flat pleated air filters (It fits a '90 Camaro V-6 if I remember correctly). I just cut a hole in the top of the box near the back end of it. It is designed so the top of the box can be removed thus releasing the filter. A lot of noise is emitted from the valve cover so this "filter housing" also helps minimize the noise coming off of the top. I fastened Sound Absorbant Foam to the bottom of the air cleaner as well.
I was hearing a "knock" as the engine was running that concerned me. A perkins mechanic said it may just need the injectors rebuilt. As I was removing the injectors I found that two of the hold-down nuts were not tight. Since I didn't know when they were last rebuilt I had them done any ways but I think those loose nuts may have been causing that noise.
Bottom line----The noise coming from the front of the generator is GREATLY reduced. It is still louder than I would like on each side near the wheel openings but I think I can seal between the gen compartment sides and my new "pan " and minimize that. I also could put some Sound Absorbant Foam in the area behind the generator as well but I may need to install a fan to assist in pulling air out of the gen compartment if I minimize the opening in that rear area. Noise level inside the Newell has not been affected. So far I have run the generator for 35 hours in varying outside temps not exceeding 65 degrees so I can't say for sure if it is sufficient for 100 degree days but so far it has not even come close to running warmer than normal.
I've really tried to "think through" these mods but I'm not an engineer so I'd welcome any criticism or "atta boy"s from this knowledgeable group.

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1490 12/20/2004 2:45:17 PM 12/20/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net 12.5 Kohler Diesel Generator "atta boys" in profusion. A most interesting list of mods. A great verbal description though pictures would be of enormous help. As soon as it gets warm (who knows when that will be in Michigan) I'll tackle my noisy gen.

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1491 12/20/2004 5:37:15 PM 12/20/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com odometer We recommend one of the following solutions: 1) Order a new speedometer from us programmed to your correct mileage reading for $168.Ê 2) Remove and send the speedometer to us to be forwarded to our vendor for repairs. But the repair costs may exceed a new unit, so that is why this is choice 2. If you would like to pursue either of these options with us, please call the Newell Director of Customer Service, John Clark. Also, there will be some lead time involved with either of these solutions.

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1492 12/21/2004 8:37:00 PM 12/22/2004 Bob Fetters JF3brand@idcomm.com odometer We recently purchased a '93 (328) that has an electronic speedometer/odometer with an analog display. There were occasional problems with display when the dashlights were activated. We too suspected a ground problem which diagnosis was confirmed by email with the factory. It was a simple matter to remove the inspection panel opposite the instrument cluster and to feed a seperate ground wire from the speedo mounting stud to the grounding stud in front of the copilot seat. This fixed our problem and took all of 10 minutes. It was suggested each instrument have its own ground.

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1494 12/24/2004 8:57:14 AM 12/24/2004 ed thalmayer 460 fts@rvwarehouse.com speedometer thanks dan. i will look for a better ground coonection first, since i have had bad ground conn. on lights before,some found by newell , several by my mech. still need to know best way to get to speedo.

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1500 1/14/2005 7:19:46 AM 1/14/2005 Jim Carney carney1081@aol.com 1972 buying advice Hi,
I'm looking at a 1972 Newell, and considering whether I should buy it. It seems to be in very good shape, but I am concerned by it's age.
I would like to solicit any insight or advice you all may have to offer.
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1502 1/26/2005 6:45:24 AM 1/26/2005 JAMES BRASELTON MavBraselton@adelphia.net HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS COOL COOL THE HYDROGEN ECONOMY IS ABOUT TO TAKE OFF WHILE THE FOSSILE FUELS DWINDILE TO EXTENTION IN 25 YEARS HYDROGEN IS IN EVERY THING AND IS EVERY WHERE SO WE DO NOT RUN OUT 100% RENEWABLE TOO CAN BE CRATED AND PRODUCED BUY RENEWABLE ENERGY TECHNOLGIES THEN BEST PART IS YOU GET LOTS OF USEABLE DRINKABLE GALLONS OF WATER OUT OF PIPE INSTEAD OF CO2 AND GREEN HOUSE GASES NOT ONLY DO HAVE THE WATER TANK CARYING WATER BUT HUNDREDS OF GALLONS OF HYDROGEN THAT TURNS IN TO WATER VAPER THATS DRINKABLE WICH MAKES HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS THE BEST FUTURE TECHNOLGIES FOR CAMPING FOR THE FUTURE EATHER ON A RV OR CAMPER VAN CUSTOM VAN BOAT YAGHT OR SHIP HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS ARE THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE.

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1503 1/26/2005 4:14:02 PM 1/29/2005 Bob InsideGolf@cablespeed.com 1972 buying advice Hi Jim, I have a '73 unit so I would guess that it can't be much different from the '72 you are looking at. The conditon of the unit is more important than its age as this unit is oftern referred to a bullet proof and with proper maintenance should last almost indefinitely. The only safety item I can think of would be the rims - it was orginally equipped with split-rims, called widow-makers, and should to be replaced as they are not safe. Cost should be around $35 each from a salvage yard (tires will be around $1,200 or so for all of them).
You can expect to get around 6 to 6.5 mpg with a gas engine. Not sure what engine is in the rig you are looking at but mine has a 391 Ford (gas) and is a bit challenged on steep hills but cruises along at 65 easily on flat ground. A little too under-powered to tow a vehicle I think.
These rigs are so much better constructed than the other units on the highway - solid construction and heavy-duty running gear. That said, they also have real dated, and sometimes dark, interior so and update should also be figured in with your purchase price.

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1505 2/1/2005 2:44:53 PM 2/2/2005 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net Brake Job Info This is for Newell Tech Staff.
We are doing a complete brake job on our 1979 Newell 38.
It has wedge brakes on the back and S-Cam on the front -
Appears to be factory standard. The rear axle drums are slightly smaller than newer S-Cam designs. The Question is - If we need to 'replace' the rear drums, are they still available (from Newell - or ??), and do you have a part number? I am not certain, but think the coach has a Rockwell differential. Thanks in advance for the info.

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1506 2/2/2005 3:59:50 PM 2/2/2005 ed thalmayer fts@rvwarehouse.com speedometer removal have asked before, still need to know the best way to remove speedo from dash. thanks

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1507 2/3/2005 7:00:50 AM 2/3/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com speedometer removal The top dash panel of your 1997 Newell, and all late model Newells, is removeable. You can get your fingers under
the panel and lift straight up on the top portion and then put your
hands between the padded cover and plastic dash and push toward the
windshield to release the bottom edge. There is a hole in the plastic
dash to get to the gauges. You should have 2 small nuts on the back of
the speedometer and a electrical plug. Older Newells, back to about 1990, have a visible removable panel behind the instrument gauges.

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1508 2/4/2005 6:57:48 AM 2/4/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Brake Job Info The axle identification information for your Newell is located on a tag attached to the differential housing. With this information, you can contact an Arvin Meritor (Rockwell) parts dealer. At Newell, we use Gooch Brake and Equipment (800-444-9802) in Joplin, MO. You also might try this web site: www.arvinmeritor.com/products/aftermarket/cva.asp

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1509 2/5/2005 3:18:12 PM 2/6/2005 ed thalmayer fts@rvwarehouse.com speedometer removal thanks guys. i will let you know if i solved the odometer disappearance problem. again thanks.

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1510 2/11/2005 8:28:45 AM 2/11/2005 billmoore newellbabies @juno.com Pictures Would like picture history of the Newell as they change from year to year. I have a 36' 74 with a diesel engine.

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1511 2/15/2005 3:37:37 AM 2/15/2005 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com Pictures Hi, Bill
I'm interested too. I'd like to see a gallery just for Newell coaches old and new. How 'bout it Newell? Maybe a gallery sectin on the Newell web-site?

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1512 2/15/2005 6:28:53 AM 2/15/2005 Raul Cortez raul-cortez@sbcglobal.net Air leaks Is there an easy way to find air leaks in the system?
My 1995 coach 401 has the aux gast compressor cycling way too much and the supply tank reading keeps on dropping. I need to fix this before I sell it and its driving me crazy. What would be the first thing to check as the source for leaks?

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1513 2/16/2005 8:00:40 PM 2/16/2005 Bob Scott thescotts@proaxis.com Air leaks We have a 1995 that also had a bad air leak. One way to help locate the source of the problem is to listen for the air leaking. However, when your hearing is as bad as mine that isn't the best solution. What I did was to make up a little bottle of water with a lot of dishwashing soap and squirt this solution on every joint I could find. By the way, there are a lot of places where air can leak. In my case the main source of loss was one of the fittings on the control valve for the generator slide out. The fix was real easy as the plastic tubing wasn't inserted far enough so as to bottom out against an O ring. I did take it all apart before learning just what the problem was. I spent an hour fixing what was a couple minutes job. Oh well I just charge it off under a rather large account called tuition. A Newell has several systems to maintain and service but at least we are starting with quality components. Best of luck in your search. Bob

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1514 2/17/2005 9:38:51 AM 2/17/2005 Scott Peatross slpeatross@sbcglobal.net Air leaks The easiest way to locate those small air leaks is to purchase an ultrasonic leak tester for about $200. You just point this device at the possible leak sources and you get a audible indication when there is a leak. You can't believe how well they work until you've tried it.

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1515 2/17/2005 9:53:56 AM 2/17/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Air leaks We agree that the ultrasonic leak detector is the "gold standard" for this work if one can justify the investment. The Newell Service Department has this equipment and uses it regularly.

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1517 2/22/2005 10:33:16 AM 2/23/2005 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net new mufflers Our 1979 Newell 38' has dual exhaust. Engine is 6V92 Detroit Diesel
NON-turbo. Noise level is no problem inside coach, but it really puts out the decibels on the outside, especially during acceleration or under load. Searching for a source for new mufflers and exhaust components. Don't want to restrict any power, but need to tone it down before meet up with zealous noise enforcement officer.
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1518 2/27/2005 8:45:55 AM 2/27/2005 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net Adding coach battery Our 1979 Newell has 2 8d batteries in the rear and 1 8d battery in the front. The wiring is cleverly done and appears (to me) to normally use 1 rear battery for the bus and the other 2 for the coach. The battery merge feature ties all three together. Someone has also added a master switch in the engine compartment, but it was installed on the positive side of the circuit (surprise to me). When off, it inhibits bus starting and lights, but all coach accessories function normally. Everything works great and should probably just leave it alone, but need to replace a couple of battery cables and my upgrade juices are flowing. Would like to add a 4th battery and isolators if can get a schematic. Anyone have any advice and/or a schematic to share? Thanks in advance..

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1519 2/27/2005 2:54:09 PM 2/27/2005 H.B. Powell hpowell@fidnet.com odometer Have 81 Newell Coach with 114,000 miles. Speedometer had quit. How do I test it to determint the problem? It is an electrical unit.

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1525 3/3/2005 4:18:39 PM 3/4/2005 Shane Crawford cradad1@aol.com Preowned Newells, through 1992 1987 38' Classic 8v92 Dietroit/740 Allison 12 kw gen. This one is nice. Asking 78,900 will send pics on request...

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1527 3/12/2005 11:12:36 AM 3/13/2005 John J. Wright John.jwright@verizon.net Microphor Commode I have a Microphor vacuum commode. It works perfectly well on the main air system. However, it's backup is a Thomas Industries 12 Volt pump that, while it will work, does not put out enough pressure. This is according to the Microphor folks. I looked for an Internet address for Thomas and, while I found something, was unable to get a source of this 12 volt pump.

I would simply like to buy a new one and have it put in.

Any help will be appreciated.

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2005 Brian Williams Awrench99@msn.com Preowned Newells, through 1992 42' 220 k coach Newell 1978 Value??? It has a less than avg. recond. done aprox. 5 years ago. Please let me know ASAP. Thanks very much!!!! A
1529 3/20/2005 5:43:21 PM 3/21/2005 Alvin Bullock alvinpops872@wmconnect.com 1992 Newell What is Smart Wheel? Is it any good? If so, can it be put on a 1992 and is SmarTire any good? Thank you.

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1532 3/29/2005 8:45:11 PM 4/4/2005 Peter kentps@aol.com Repower Changing out engine in my 79 Newell. 555 gave up, installing 6V92TA Model 806 with HT747D Allison. Need help with axel ratio as Detroit will not develop RPM of the Cummins. Thanks Pete

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1533 3/30/2005 8:49:43 PM 4/4/2005 Jack Fortner jackfortner@charter.net Windshield wiper I have an 85 newell and the right windshield wiper quit working. How do I get to it. It's electric I presume and are new motors or parts available?

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1536 4/4/2005 8:18:41 AM 4/4/2005 Bill Moore newellbabies @juno.com speedometer quit I have a 74 diesel pusher and the speedometer quit. The speedometer has no cable connection. It's electric. Where is the cable converter located. It is not on the firewall.

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1537 4/4/2005 11:26:24 AM 4/6/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com speedometer quit The speedometer is driven by a pencil gear coming out of the tail shaft on the drivers side of
the transmission. Follow the speedometer cable from the pencil gear up to a gearbox and a mini generator. More than likely the problem is the gearbox. If you contact Newell Service (1-888-3NEWELL), we can arrange for you to send it to us, rebuild it, and return it to you.

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1538 4/7/2005 11:15:46 AM 4/8/2005 jim Gering jimg@newellcoach.com 750 data storm We have the data storm running great in coach 750

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1539 4/11/2005 10:02:15 AM 4/11/2005 Mike rasputinkiller@yahoo.com 1975 Newell Coach Hello, I am looking to purchase a 1975 coach. Aside from knowing that it has a Cummins V-555 engine and an
Allison MT640 transmission the broker could not give me any other technical info. Can anybody give me any insight on the 1975 coach? It currently has 177k miles on it.

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1540 4/12/2005 10:56:15 PM 4/13/2005 B. Johnston nmbjohnston@aol.com 1975 Newell Coach About the Cummins 555 (triple nickel) engine; When I bought my '79 2 years ago and asked for information about that engine my local Cummins mechanic, a nearby Newell owner (that had one with that engine years ago), and a friend that is a farm machinery mechanic and has worked on them before all said the same thing; it's underpowered, hard to repair, and recommended against buying it if it had one. A previous message in this web site from William Griffith, guzzi@bayou.com stated "We have a 78 Newell that "had" a 555 Cummins (214hp WHEN NEW). We felt that the 555 was sluggish on take off and terribly under powered. While it will eventually get up the hills, it will take a while and after everything else passes you. When we had problems (blown engine) we found that the 555 is an old out-dated engine, few machanics know how to work on it, parts are not readily available and to rebuild the top end would be over $13K."

Fortunately, when we inspected it we found that the previous owner had replaced it with the 903 Cummins and I bought it. It has had no problems so far, although it does smoke until it really warms up. I love my old Newell coach!
Hope this helps a bit.

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1542 4/20/2005 6:00:03 PM 4/22/2005 john leuenberger jeleuen@cox.net Preowned Newells, through 1992 1982 36' Classic/DD6V92TA/Allison/Jake. 160K mi. Many updates, very nice. Records. NW FL. $49900. 850 244 6150.

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1543 4/24/2005 8:58:01 AM 4/24/2005 Tim Durham timdur@cox.net 750 data storm I have had the Datastorm with DW4000 modems and D1 controller up and running in coach 539 since April 2004.

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1544 4/25/2005 1:19:07 PM 4/25/2005 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net Repower We have a 1979 Newell 38' with a factory V692DD and Allison 5 speed transmission (believe the model is a 654).
Coach has a Rockwell rear end with 3:55 ratio. Gearing is perfect and 2300 RPM = approx 78 MPH (depends on the wind). Here is a caviet - our Allison transmission is a 5 speed with a locking torque converter which actually acts and shifts like an additional gear (6 speed). If your new transmission does not utilize a locking torque converter, you will need a higher ratio. Newell should be able to make a recommendation. Hope this helps a little.

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1545 4/26/2005 4:33:15 PM 4/27/2005 mike birmingham birminghamm@rush-enterprises.com front brakes This is for the techs. I need orginal part numbers for front drums and shoes . The last brake job done on this coach was done wrong by another location so no telling what is correct.
Please help if you could. I replaced parts already but its not right. vin # 1N9446X87P1011330, 10/92.

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1547 4/27/2005 4:54:43 AM 4/27/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com front brakes In addition to the part numbers, the actual parts are most often available from the Newell parts support staff at 1-888-3NEWELL. Newell does not charge for telephone support or information posted on TechTalk, but keep in mind that selling the actual parts helps our salaries so we can be here for you. Call Newell and we can probably supply the drums and shoes you need.

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1548 4/29/2005 11:02:21 PM 5/1/2005 Mo DeGagne mdegagne@telus.net Preowned Newells, through 1992 '75 Newell with rebuilt 3208 Cat Turbo, rebuilt Allison 5 speed, newer Kobota 18KW gen, belly fridge/freezer; dc-ac inverter; newer rubber all around, aluminum rims, updated 3 tone exterior,recently updated interior, flat screen TV and surround sound stereo, CD, DVD, VCR, new radiator, new brakes. Located in southern Alberta. Priced at $60,000 Can. More info by e-mailing mdegagne@telus.net

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1549 4/30/2005 6:27:38 PM 5/1/2005 clay canaday orthodo@comcast.net 2006 newells How much weight is added with the new Cat engine and trans over the old Detroit/Allison setup of earlier Newells?
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1550 5/1/2005 4:32:17 AM 5/1/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com 2006 newells We actually weighed the engines and transmissions in our facilities to make sure we knew the weights accurately and the impact of the change. Good news! While the 625 hp Cat engine weights a couple of hundred pounds more than the Series 60 Detroit, the ZF transmission weighs several hundred pounds less than an Allision (primarily because the automated mechanical clutch of the ZF weighs less than the Allison's torque converter). The Cat/ZF combination weighs a couple of hundred pound less than the Detroit/Allison combo.

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1553 5/5/2005 9:31:12 AM 5/5/2005 Marc Hobbie lmhobbie@yahoo.com New Tires/Tire Pressure Monitor We are currently running the Bridgestone R293 (24,5's) steering tires all around on our '93. We are looking for new tires and are wondering if anyone has suggestions about our best options. Has anyone used the new Goodyear G670 RV tire? We are also considering putting on a tire pressure monitoring system all around. . .Have looked at one from Doran Mfg and one from Tire Century by Fleet Specialties. . .Does anyone have any opinions, + or - about either of these? In the reading on tires and tech talk, some have mentioned filling tires with nitrogen. We live in a rural area, and it's not available. Does it work so well that we should go to a big city to get it?

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1554 5/5/2005 2:54:42 PM 5/5/2005 Don Roberts dbr@fiberpipe.net New Tires/Tire Pressure Monitor I tried the Doran and the rear tire sensors did not connect with the receiver consistently. They had assured me not only would they work on the coach, but the tow as well. Not in my case.

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1555 5/6/2005 4:26:30 PM 5/7/2005 Rod de Szendeffy roddesz@aol.com Microphor Commode Try Grainger.com. I upgraded my 12V with a better one-same size and went to 110 at the same time. Microphor folks are great to work with, but no one else seemed able or willing to work on their products. Finally had to remove it myself-great fun that was-and ship the whole thing to them for overhaul. Good Luck. Microphor seems to make a great product until it needs service.

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1556 5/8/2005 2:21:13 PM 5/9/2005 Tyson... malacahari@yahoo.com I this possible? Is it possible for a 45' motorhome to have a permanately affixed matching (height/width) trailer, that one can pass between from inside the motorhome. I guess it would be like an extra long motorhome with a pivot or flexing mechinasm in the middle... Any thoughts... possibly a photograph or link to a site would be appreciated. Q

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1559 5/11/2005 4:41:13 AM 5/11/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com I this possible? The complexities and costs of engineering and building a new articulated coach would be very considerable, and the sales volume low, given the probable cost of finished units. Possible? Yes. Probable? We do not think so. Prevost built a seated articulated interstate coach in the 90s, the H460. The coach was not successful from the sales standpoint and was discontinued.

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1558 5/11/2005 4:32:45 AM 5/11/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com skydeck Newells have been built with roof observation platforms beginning some 20 years ago. Typically, Newell decks the roof with aluminum diamond plate, and the rails and ladder are fabricated out of stainless steel tubing by an experienced boat rail maker. Newell will not offer a system with rails that folds down onto the roof like the Skydeck because the Newell roofline is higher than units equipped with the Skydeck, and adding the Skydeck to a Newell would result in a coach being too tall. An additional factor is that many of the top motor racing venues prohibit watching events from the roofs of RVs in the infield, so Newell has experienced a decline in interest for roof observation decks.

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1560 5/11/2005 9:31:46 AM 5/11/2005 Craig Runcie cr03411@navix.net Copy of owners manual I just purchased a 1981 Newell 38' Motor Coach with a 6V92DD and a Allison 5 speed transmission. This is my first coach and I have no idea how anything works. Does anybody have a manual or able to make a copy for me? Would appreciate any help...I can't wait to get on the road. Thanks!

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1561 5/11/2005 1:08:16 PM 5/11/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Copy of owners manual The original documentation for coaches of this era included a large notebook of manuals and books for components as well as engineering drawings and specifications. No owner's manual existed before about 1990.

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1562 5/11/2005 3:11:17 PM 5/15/2005 Mark K mbrgr@tularosa.net 1975 Newell 33ft Hello, I am considering a 1975 33ft Newell, with a rear V555 cummins diesel and allison 4spd auto. It is in excellent condition, and had only 10 hrs on a long block replacement engine. Anything I should look for or expect on this coach? Thanks in advance.
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1563 5/15/2005 2:34:45 PM 5/15/2005 Ed Pan edwpan@aol.com New Tires/Tire Pressure Monitor Dear Don, YOU MUST ASK FOR THE 30FT. XT. ANT. AND MOVE IT FARTHER BACK OF COACH... LIKE AROUND MIDCOACH AREA. THEN HAVE A SEMIPERM. PLACE TO MOUNT THAT ANT. WHILE TRAVELLING.
MINE WORKS JUST GREAT!

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1564 5/16/2005 4:04:43 PM 5/17/2005 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net Copy of owners manual Dear Craig,
We have owned a 1979 38' with 6V92DD with 5 speed Allison for approx 4 years and have accumulated a lot of info about the coach in leiu of an owner's manual. Yours will be much the same. If you have specific questions, please feel free to email or call. I can either explain and or FAX some of the documentation we have accumulated. I would really love to see Newell put together an owner's manual for these older coaches. I'm sure we would all pay good $$ for it - especially something with wiring schematics.
Anyway - we just returned from weekend at Grand Lake. We keep our coach in top shape and it always draws attention.
best,
Rich Farr
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1565 5/17/2005 4:41:03 AM 5/17/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Copy of owners manual Creating an owner's manual for vintage Newells is simply not practical. What would actually be required would be several manuals, as the coaches changed considerably through the time period involved, starting back in 1967. The information required would also be very difficult to impossible to recover short of using sample coaches and "reverse engineering" the manuals. Finally, even now, after we have created and published owner's manuals for 15 years or so, we run into two significant issues: it is very difficult to properly cover all of the questions that can arise, and a large number of questions involve components that are covered in their own manuals. Is this information to be duplicated in the coach owner's manual/ If not, these component manuals are often lost. Modifications that coaches have received through the years further complicate the challenge. Think about going into a residential area that was developed by a single builder 15 to 25 years ago, and trying to write an "owner's manual" for the homes.

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1566 5/17/2005 2:58:22 PM 5/18/2005 Hoyt Rollins wrongway94@charter.net wiring diagram I have a 1972 37'Newell bus with a cat. I have a wiring problem and need a light wiring diagram. When there are no lights on I have brake lights and turn signals on rear, when I turn the lights on I dont have brake lights, tail lights, or turn signals on rear. Does any one have a light wiring diagram?

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1567 5/17/2005 3:02:39 PM 5/18/2005 Hoyt Rollins wrongway94@charter.net 1972 buying advice I have a 72 with a diesel 3208 cat engine. The age is no problem, a newell coach is a great investment.

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1568 5/18/2005 4:09:48 AM 5/18/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com wiring diagram There are virtually no wiring diagrams available for vintage Newells. In many cases, the folks in the factory service department can help guide an owner. However, we have now talked with Hoyt and determined the wiring of this coach has been modified since it was built. The old "trace one wire at a time" system appears to be the only choice here.

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1569 5/18/2005 4:13:15 PM 5/21/2005 Ron Kirby rka2@speedisp.com Windshield wiper Jack, I have a 85 and the wipers are air controled. When I had to fix mine it was a fairly common procedure for Mechanics used to fixing air controled throtles etc.

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1573 5/28/2005 5:07:18 AM 5/31/2005 Jean Mertz jeanmertz@netscape.net Poor TV Reception We have a 2001 Newell that has a limo antenna. We rarely are able to get even one local channel. We have East & West Coast local channels through satellite. However, it would be nice to have the local channels available for whatever city we may be in. Does anyone have any suggestions on what our options could be.

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1574 5/30/2005 7:38:53 PM 5/31/2005 donald Riebe drar1999-signups@yahoo.com HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS Actually, fuel cells are a middleman rip off. Years ago Toyota developed a system whereby you pour water into your "fuel tank" the electrodes separate out the hydrogen while you drive and pump the hydrogen to the engine. Then the oil cartele threatened the then young Toyota and forced them to sell the patent. The article about the invention was actually found in popular mechanics a decade or so ago. The good thing is that the patent has run out and Toyota wants to reintroduce "water running" hydrogen cars that cut out the greedy SOB's that want to get into your pockets.

The best thing for Newell to do is colaborate with Toyota to introduce the worlds first line of coaches that run on "water" fuel then is free forever because you make your own.

Let me know what your thoughts are...
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1575 5/30/2005 7:49:02 PM 5/31/2005 donald Riebe drar1999-signups@yahoo.com HYBRIDES AND HYDROGEN OR GREEN FUEL RVS Pardon me but years ago Toyota addressed and resolved safety issues of Hydrogen fueled vehicles. They found that actually **making** your hydrogen fuel while you are driving is the safest and cheapest way to utilize hydrogen. You fill the "fuel tank" with water, electrodes separate the hydrogen while driving and pumps it to the engine. Infinite fuel at zero cost, safely. Fuel cells are created by greedy middlemen who would like you to believe that any other way of producing the fuel is dangerous. Heck, I made the gas in high school chemistry class safely, and burned it safely in a makeshift steam engine. In 1970!

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1576 5/31/2005 5:48:34 AM 5/31/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Poor TV Reception Some of these "limo antennas" were installed without amplifiers. Call Newell Service at 1-888-3NEWELL for advice on installing a signal amplifier. We suspect that this will solve your problem.

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1579 6/3/2005 8:03:03 PM 6/4/2005 Rick Harris RickSMT@hotmail.com Turning Radius The brouchure states a "eye popping 37' turning radius" which is very impressive. Can I assume that it is for the 45' unit? If it is, can you tell me what would be the turning for the shortest unit you produce, (for the 39')?

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1581 6/7/2005 3:40:41 PM 6/7/2005 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net Blowout damage repair Question for Newell Tech Staff -
1979 Newell - Blowout at 65 MPH on right rear outside dual. Steel Radial came apart and by the time we got coach stopped, it had slightly damaged some paint, sheet metal and aluminum trim around the wheel well. In addition to 4 new rear tires, we will need some light body work, paint and new trim to put things back in pristine condition. Does Newell still carry the rub rail components and wheel well trim for 1979 coach?
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1582 6/7/2005 5:10:31 PM 6/7/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Blowout damage repair We can typically handle this type of repair on vintage Newells. Specific questions regarding body repairs, including confirmation of parts availability, should be directed to the manager of Newell's body and paint operations, Jerry Allen, at 1-888-3NEWELL.

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1583 6/9/2005 1:11:53 PM 6/9/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Turning Radius The turning radius for a 39' Newell would be approximately 30 feet.

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1584 6/10/2005 8:39:11 PM 6/13/2005 Eric Crinnian ericcrinnian@cableone.net Entertainment I was browsing through the catalog for the 2006 models and was checking out the entertainment options, and had a couple of questions: what brand of 42" plasmas are mounted in the Newells, and how are they mounted? From the one picture I saw, it appears they are on a motorized lift, is that correct? Also, are there any other surround systems available beside the Marantz? Thanks a lot!

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1585 6/11/2005 7:56:18 AM 6/13/2005 Tuga Gaidry tugagaidry@bellsouth.net glide outs I am curious to know if any of you have had problems with your glide-outs? Are they expensive to maintain? Specifically, what problems have occured? Are the problems operator-error or manufacturer design? I have a '93 and I am considering buying another Newell with glide-outs. I would also appreciate hearing from Newell tech staff regarding HWH glides vs. Valid glides. Thank you!

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1586 6/13/2005 5:29:44 AM 6/13/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com glide outs Motor home slide outs are complicated devices, and Murphy's Law subjects slides to a variety of possible issues. That said, if there is a problem, it typical manifests itself in the first year of operation and is corrected. While we expect some maintenance and repairs on the slide-outs as the coach ages, our experience has been very good, with surprisingly few problems. Further, our experience with both HWH hydraulic slides and Valid electric slides has been good. The Valid system is more sophisticated, with large machine bearings reducing friction and therefore the force required to move the slides, but the HWH slides have proven to be quite reliable.

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1587 6/13/2005 5:38:23 AM 6/13/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Entertainment We use a variety of flat screen monitors, depending on the specific interior we create with our customer, as well as the customer's preferences. We typically currently use Zenith enhanced definition or LG high definition 42" plasma monitors in the living room area, and a variety of of brands, either plasma or LCD, as well as a variety of sizes, in the bedroom area. We have also installed small LCD flat screens in the rear bath area. While we often use Marantz surround sound home theater receivers, we occasionally install another brand to meet a customer's request. We occasionally install a motorized lift or ceiling tilt down mechanism, although most monitors are installed fixed to the wall or cabinet.

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1589 6/14/2005 3:16:56 AM 6/15/2005 Peter Kent kentps@aol.com Totally Impressed I recently toured the Newell manufacturing facility. I remain totally impressed with the "Family" feeling exuded, while touring. The Quality orientation, and attention to minute detail in each phase left me spellbound. Few workplaces exist today, where Pride of Accomplishment overtakes the pressures of scheduling. Congradulations to you all. Were I younger, I would like to work there.

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1590 6/14/2005 7:38:43 PM 6/15/2005 davidmbrady dmb993@earthlink.net Newell Rattles I'm very interested in Newell coaches but am puzzled by one thing - can these coaches really be rattle free? I have experience with other high-end coach manufacturers, specifically bluebird and prevost, and have found that these coaches are not rattle free. They are wonderful to drive on smooth highways, but over cobblestone-like surfaces the do make some noise. How is it possible that Newell's don't rattle? Are even the older "vintage" Newells this tight? On another note, is there a prefered model year or range of models that are more desireable? Thanks in advance.

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1592 6/15/2005 12:30:40 PM 6/16/2005 Doug Potter Doug.potter@cebridge.net Preowned Newells, through 1992 For Sale, 1986 Newell 40' 8v92TA 475HP, jake, A740, loaded nice paint. $80,000 email me at doug.potter@cebridge.net. I don't check email every day but I will respond as soon as I see your message. DFW Texas area.

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1593 6/16/2005 8:51:50 PM 6/17/2005 Bob Scott thescotts@proaxis.com Newell Rattles David, when I saw your question posted I just had to respond. I hate squeeks, rattles or bangs and even wind noise when driving any vehicle. This is especially true of a high end motorhome. The lack of all these irritating noises is a major reason for driving a Newell. I have owned several brand X's as well as converting a couple of buses and it is very difficult to eliminate all these little gremlins. The folk at Newell have about as near a perfect solution as anyone in meeting the objective of a quiet coach. We currently own a 95 and previously owned an 86. Both have been very quiet. I keep telling my wife that if you hear any unusual noise, something is wrong. Doors and drawers need to be properly secured. Blinds need to be properly stowed,etc. One reason, in my opinion, why Newell is as successful as they are is the fact that they build everything from the ground up. The changes that they do make are gradual and are proven as they go along. Some of the other manufacturers introduce completely new models every year and guess who ends up proving whether all the new systems are good and work properly. If your thing is solving someone elses problems buy brand X. If you want something that's ready to use and enjoy buy a Newell. At least that's my opinion. Good luck shopping. Bob

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1594 6/20/2005 7:50:39 AM 6/20/2005 davidmbrady dmb993@earthlink.net Newell w/ it's clothes off Folks,

Does anyone have a chassis pic of a Newell with glides? I'm
very intrigued by the bridge style construction and the
ability to add glides w/o compromising chassis strength.

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1595 6/20/2005 5:41:37 PM 6/20/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Newell w/ it's clothes off To see a Newell in the buff, go to www.newellcoach.com and download the brochure.

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1597 6/21/2005 8:10:53 AM 6/21/2005 cary brooks cbrooks@elkhart.net Pictures Great idea! I have been searching the web for ages to build my own collection of Newell's as they have changed. But unless they are listed for sale photos are hard to find.
A gallery of the classics would be an awesome idea!

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1598 6/21/2005 12:48:14 PM 6/21/2005 Jon Kabbe jaak93@charter.net Older Newell Coaches - Costs A motor coach gives you the opportunity to choose the size vehicle you will use when your home is parked. Part of the reason I chose a Newell Coach is that I enjoy tooting around locally in a small car rather than the Suburban we used to tow the trailer.

The power train of a Newell or similar coach will be much heavier duty and more expensive to repair than that of a van or pickup tow vehicle. The best protection is to have someone knowledgeable about the power train inspect it thoroughly prior to purchase. You experience with gas engines won't apply to the big diesels. There are no guarantees after a good inspection but at least you eliminated the most knowable things.

While the systems on high end motor coaches are far more complex than a 5th wheel, I've not found that to contribute a lot to reliability compromises. Newell builds durable coach with the coach parts being readily available from many suppliers.

There are two theories regarding long term stays. One is to drive regularly and the other is to mothball the thing. My choice is to mothball it. I change the oil, check the coolant condition and then run it for a few minutes. After shutting it down I cover the engine intake, exhaust and breather pipes with a plastic garbage bag with the bags let somewhat inflated so that with temperature changes the breathing is in and out of the bag. That way no new moisture is added. I do the same with the fuel tanks. Now all I need to do before starting up is remember to remove the bags. I'm not recommending this particular approach over others. It's just what I've done to protect my investment with minimal effort and complication.

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1599 6/21/2005 7:27:05 PM 6/22/2005 Tuga Gaidry tugagaidry@bellsouth.net Newell Rattles David, I also hate rattles. I presently own a '93 Newell 44' and previously had an '87 Newell Classic. I have never owned any other brand but a Newell. Both coaches were very quiet, and for the most part, rattle free. Once a year I have to tighten up the screws on my front TV plywood platform. That's pretty much it! Everything else; doors, windows, drawers, & cabinet slide-outs are rock solid and do not warp or bend. The only noise you will hear is the squeaking of leather rubbing on leather when driving on very rough roads (cobblestone, brick, or Louisiana highways). Ex: The driver's seat arm rest will rub on the window treatment when on bumpy, rough roads. My coach is 13 years old with 160,000 miles and it drives like a dream. I drove a '98 Prevost Liberty, and I must say that it was a very smooth, tight, and rattle free ride. Prevost makes an excellent coach. I have not had the pleasure of driving a Blue Bird. My '87 Newell Classic was also very quite. I have only ridden in one other coach recently, and it rattled so much that the salesman had to wedge a wash cloth in the bedroom door to stop the rattling. We could hear it from the driver's seat! I could see daylight thru the slide-out! Needless to say my friend didn't buy that coach.

I don't know how Newell builds such a quite, rattle-free coach; but, I'm glad that they do! And I am glad that I own one!

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1600 6/21/2005 11:40:26 PM 6/22/2005 Ken White admin@newell classic.com (admin@LuxuryCoachLifestyle.com) Pictures I am in the middle of building a website for existing Newell Coach owners where we can share pictures and information about our Newells. I currently own two classics. We are working some bugs out in our gallery program and as soon as my daughter who is my webmaster gets back from her trip we should have it available for every existing Newell Coach owner to use free of charge. I will also be offering for free an email service for anyone who owns a Newell Coach. What can I say; I love these coaches.[Editor's note: see www.newell classic.com] (http://www.LuxuryCoachLifestyle.com])

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1601 6/21/2005 11:56:46 PM 6/22/2005 Ken White admin@newell classic.com (admin@LuxuryCoachLifestyle.com) Older Newell Coaches - Costs Most of the parts on the older Newells are no problem to deal with. There are thousands of the Detroit engines out there for parts etc. Regarding a radiator, I had a old Kenworth W900A with a very expensive rare radiator which I needed to replace and the going rate for the radiator was $2800 which I thought was crazy. After some addtitional homework I found a reliable core supplier in California that sold me a brand new core replacement for $600 and it cost me about $200 to have the tanks removed and replaced from my old core to the new core. So, for around $800 and my labor to R&R the radiater which was easy I save some money. Anyone that is thinking of buying any older coach should know how to do some of the repairs. It makes logical sense. There are plenty of ways to save on the ownership of a Newell classic. Just make sure that you know plenty of history on the coach you end up buying and realize the value trade off.

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1602 6/22/2005 12:05:02 AM 6/22/2005 Ken White admin@LuxuryCoachLifestyle.com HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS I would love to read that article and know more about the subject. I like anything that has to do with renewable energy or any other fuel saving ideas.

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1604 6/22/2005 12:20:10 AM 9/29/2005 Ken White admin@LuxuryCoachLifestyle.com Diesel Engine Swap What engines are feasible to install in a late 70s Newell? I own two Newells, one with a 6V92T and another with the Cummins 555. I would love to swap out the 555 for a newer in-line 6 cyl. diesel. I have access for a reasonable price brand to new motorhome chassis with Cummins or Cat engines. These are complete chassis for building new motorhomes. They come with all running gear and electrical components. Anyone taken on this type of swap?

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1606 6/25/2005 7:30:47 AM 6/25/2005 Philip Zerwas philipzerwas@hotmail.com 1981 Newell For Sale 1981 36 foot Newell Coach - Excellent running 903 Cummins turbo diesel and 643 MT Allison 5 speed automatic transmission with 95,000 miles. Jake Brakes, cruise control and block heaters (oil and water). 12.5 Kohler diesel generator with 3000 hrs. Tires have less than 5,000 miles. All systems checked and serviced in May 2005.

Interior: Newer Norcold refrig/freezer and newer Norcold freezer/fridge in basement. Excellent floor plan with walk thru bathroom (closes off to both bedroom and living area) with center isle queen size bed, 2 closets and lots of storage everywhere, stereo system, 2 color TVÕs, microwave, 4 burner LP stove with LP oven. Double sink, drinking water filter, central vacuum system, 6 way power Flexsteel driver seat, queen size pullout couch-bed, safe (works - have combination), 2 RT A/C units (rear unit is heater too) 3 gas, 3 electric and 3 off engine furnaces.

Capacities: 49 gallon LP, 224 gallon + 56 reserve diesel tank, 116 gal water and 119 gal holding tank, 10 gallon LP water heater.

Starts with the greatest of ease and everything works. Solid coach at a reasonable price ($47,000). Additional photos at www.flickr.com/photos/pzerwas

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1607 6/25/2005 7:37:21 PM 7/16/2005 Bob Fetters jf3brand@idcomm.com Newell Rattles We too have a 93 Newell (38')and on a trip to visit Bent's Fort we encountered a malfunction of our front axle air ride level valve. The front end went to system pressure and the ride went from smooth as glass to very buckboardish. My mother-in-law refers to our '86 Sportscoach as a bucket of bolts (actually quite quiet as motorhomes go) but admittedly no where near as quiet as our Newell. Even with the jackrabbit ride, we remained remarkably free of rattles. And that was without the blinds stowed (my mother-in-law wants them up to see, but only part way) and the grandkids have to have their's down with a window open inspite of the air conditioning. In my opinion it just does not get any better than a Newell. ~~~ As an aside, we encountered a U.S. Park Service employee at Bent's Fort who it turns out is the son of Newell Motor Coach founder L. K. Newell. We had an enjoyable conversation with the younger Mr. Newell about his father and mother as well as Newell Motor Coaches. If you travel near the area stop and look him up.

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1608 6/29/2005 11:47:42 AM 7/16/2005 Bob Brandt brandt@dtnspeed.net Pictures My wife and I are the fourth owners of a 1974 coach. We are updating inside but leaving the exterior in its pristine classic look. I am excited about your website and as soon as I conquer this confuser (computer), I'll share some photos. Good Luck.

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1609 6/30/2005 12:21:06 AM 7/16/2005 Tim Durham timdur@cox.net Newell Rattles David, the only thing I am aware of that Newell states in regards to rattles is found in their current brochure on page 8 under "Interior Excellence." "The beautifully contoured interior cabinetry is specially secured from floor to ceiling to prevent squeaks & rattles for the life of the coach." I think that we need to put some things in perspective. I own a 2000 Newell 45', two slides, with 140,000 miles. I am the second owner of this coach, but this is my first Newell and I couldn't be happier with it. I drove many miles in "high-end" bus conversions from all the major converters over all types of road surfaces. They all rattled, or squeaked, or popped, or made some kind of noise at some point - whether they were new or used. Then I drove and bought a Newell. I previously owned a 33' Fleetwood Pace-Arrow that would shake you until your stomach was upset.

If you find a coach that doesn't make some kind of noise when driven over a "cobblestone-like surface," it's a first for the industry. It is my opinion that the older "vintage" Newell's could not be as tight as the newer models, and a newer coach might be "more desirable" as it would most likely tend to have less rattles or other noises. However, think about all of the components in the coach. The engine, transmission, axles, wheels, and tires produce some vibration. The cabinetry and the items you put in those cabinets will make some kind of noise at some point. That short list only barely scratches the surface of the components that make up the coach. If you've never seen a coach being built, you should go see how a Newell is fabricated.

The Newell is a very quiet coach and as Bob pointed out, "... it is very difficult to eliminate all these little gremlins." My 10 year old house sits on a solid concrete foundation, but if you turned off the water, gas, and electricity so that nothing is running, it still pops and makes some noises at times because the earth underneath it moves. If you put wheels under my house and drove it down the highway at 70 miles per hour, it would fall apart. The Newell or any other coach becomes your house on wheels. At some point, you will have a minor noise to deal with. Mine has a few noises at times, but is a very quiet coach. When I encounter a noise or rattle, I find it and fix it. I believe this is true of any motorcoach or motorhome. This is my personal opinion and I believe you can't go wrong with a Newell. I hope this helps. Tim.

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1610 7/1/2005 2:07:20 AM 7/16/2005 Cam sickjohnson@hotmail.com Newell P-2000i I see there is a new Model, "Newell P-2000i" available today. I was intrested in finding out when information on the Newell P-2000i will be availble on the website? I am also wishing to maybe see a video clip. Keep up the impressive work!!! Cam :)

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1613 7/5/2005 4:53:43 AM 7/16/2005 GEORGE TOWELL GLTOWELL@MSN.COM Turning Radius WHAT IS THE TURNING RADIUS OF A 40 FT. SINGLE AXEL 1991 NEWELL. I HAVE COACH #260 AND IT TAKES QUITE A BIT OF ROOM. IS THEIR SOMETHING I CAN DO TO SHORTEN THE TURNING RADIUS?

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1617 7/6/2005 10:00:56 AM 7/16/2005 Don Koenig donkoenig@juno.com Brake shoes & shocks How many miles should one expect to get on brake shoes & shocks when driving a 1984 40'Newell classic coach? What was the original manufacturer of the shocks? Do the front brake shoes wear out first? Can the rear shocks be changed without removing the brake drum? (Looks tight) THANKS DON

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1619 7/7/2005 8:45:00 PM 7/16/2005 Clay G. thistlepuss@yahoo.com Wanted: 70's, early 80's, coach I'm looking for a 70's, or early 80's Newell coach (diesel) in excellent condition....

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1620 7/8/2005 7:10:43 PM 7/16/2005 Mike & Jean Mertz jeanmertz@netscape.net Noisy Air Conditioner Our unit is a 2001 with the air conditioners located underneath. This is our first Newell. The front air is exceptionally loud (in our opinion). When it comes on we have a hard time hearing the tv. Is this normal?

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1621 7/11/2005 8:02:58 AM 7/16/2005 Alan & Becky Jones flywithbeckalan@msn.com '86 Newell Generator Compartment door The 4 latches on the generator compartment need to be replaced and the original latch maker doesn't exist anymore. Does anyone know a latch (4) that would be a replacement without doing body work and a new skin. Thanks

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1622 7/13/2005 7:32:53 AM 7/16/2005 Steve Shepard drshep1@bellsouth.net HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS A hydrogen fuel cell is still far off. In ordeer to power a motor home it will be necessary to develep the electric motors and the transmission system to go with them. This is going to be a great problem. Also the hydrogen economy has to be developed so a ready supply of hydrogen is available to the consuming public. It would be great if it were readily available.
The current Newell powerplants are among the best and most efficient units available.

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1624 7/16/2005 8:46:29 AM 7/16/2005 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net Older Newell Coaches - Costs Cathy - We have a 1979 Newell 38 foot that have owned for 5 years. We bought it in excellent shape and keep it up. It lives inside and have had almost no actual problems. I do like to tinker and stay ahead of the maintenance curve however, so keep it serviced; also did major service on the generator; new brakes; repaired 3 awnings; new tires; etc. Owner/s should be capable of service type work and/or locate a good mechanic shop with reasonable prices. The older coaches are non computerized and much easier/cheaper to work on. It is therapy for me to polish and do light maintenance. We hope to upgrade to a 1988/89 Newell in next year or so(last of the classic models). We travel regularly with friends who have new 5th wheel with 3 slide outs. Tow vehicle is 1 ton Ford diesel. 5th wheel is new/fancy, but we all spend most time in the Newell at the campsites. Air cond works much better and it is simply a superior RV.
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1625 7/16/2005 9:25:55 AM 7/16/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Diesel Engine Swap Diesel powered Newells were relatively compact V6 or V8 engines until the introduction of the Series 60 Detroit Diesel in 1995. As such, these engines were considerably shorter in length, and providing room for a rear-mounted radiator. To accommodate the longer straight 6 Series 60, the radiator was moved to the side. While it would not be impossible to retrofit a more modern in-line 6 into a coach originally built with a V-type engine, the modifications required would be extensive and most likely not cost justified. A less expensive (still not "cheap") alternative would be to retrofit a max-power version of the 6V92 Detroit (used or remanufactured are the only available 6Vs). However, this would still require a significant upgrade to the cooling system as well as a higher capacity transmission if going from an engine in the 200 hp range. Perhaps a trade to a later model coach would be the most economical approach, particularly considering that the cost of an engine retrofit on an older coach would very likely not enhance the resale value nearly as much as the costs involved.

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1626 7/16/2005 9:37:29 AM 7/16/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Newell P-2000i A rendering of the new P-2000i is on the home page of the Newell website. The first P-2000i is undergoing final completion as of this moment. We expect to be able to complete the coach, then do the photography and post the material to the website within 30 days. For clarification: the P-2000i is an exterior update, with major modifications to the body from the front axle forward. The design and engineering was done on contract with Porsche Engineering, and we were extremely pleased with all aspects of Porsche's contribution to this project. The interior, other than the enhanced visability out the front one-piece windshield, was not involved in the project, and in fact, evolves continually, changing from coach to coach based on each customer's preferences and special requests. The P-2000i completes the exterior update begun with the introduction of the new styling of the rear cap and roof last year.

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1627 7/16/2005 4:05:52 PM 7/16/2005 Joyce D'Hondt kayakusa@yahoo.com Older Newell Coaches - Costs Does anyone know the ballpark price of repairing dash air conditioners? Are they really needed for over the road hauling?
This is an older Newell and seems in good condition except for the air.
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1628 7/16/2005 8:20:11 PM 7/19/2005 john leuenberger jeleuen@cox.net Older Newell Coaches - Costs Probably too expensive to justify repairing engine a/c when one can run the diesel gen for less than 1 gallon per hr to power both roof a/c's. Plus it's good for the generator to give it some use. If the coach is over 15 yrs old, probably needs pretty much everything starting with the compressor. My son's '97 Jeep Grand Cherokee needed $1500 for this repair. Probably costs at least twice as much for the bus.

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1629 7/16/2005 11:06:41 PM 7/19/2005 Don Swartzbaugh mownlawns@yahoo.com Preowned Newells, through 1992 1992 newell 8v92 excellent cond. low miles white with blue stripes new tires always serviced,to many extras $150,000 obo.or trade ? call 562 577-8302 or email mownlawns@yahoo.com

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1630 7/18/2005 5:00:52 PM 7/19/2005 Marilyn mward@fhtm.us Checking VIN # for Newell Diesel Pushers Can anyone tell me how to check out a VIN # on internet. My brother is looking at a 97, 45' Diesel Pusher and would like to check it out.

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1631 7/19/2005 1:08:59 PM 7/19/2005 Mike Donahue Mikydon@aol.com I'm looking at a 76 Newell I am looking at a 76 Newell with a blown Cummins 555. What do you suggest I put in there? I am looking at a Detroit V6 92. I'm not sure what to do. Will the radiator have to be replaced?

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1632 7/19/2005 4:53:35 PM 7/19/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com I'm looking at a 76 Newell Installation of a Detroit Diesel 6V92 engine would require extensive modifications, including an upgraded transmission and a higher capacity cooling system. A successful conversion is possible, but it will require skillful planning and installation, and this would be an expensive repower, particularly compared to the value of a 30-year old coach. The expense of the repower could easily exceed the value of the coach after completion. A rebuilt or used Cummins 555 or Caterpillar 3208 would reduce the cost considerably. But we recommend that as you evaluate your alternatives, you compare the expected cost of each to the value of the coach upon completion.

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1633 7/22/2005 10:13:55 AM 7/27/2005 Bill Bartels bartels@bellnet.ca WANTED 1990-91 Newell, must be like new, perfer single axle 38ft. or 40ft. tandem. Cell 905-971-9738

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1634 7/25/2005 10:36:50 AM 7/27/2005 JWeBJamin@cox.net 1981 Newell For Sale do you have interior pics and is bus still for sale?

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1635 7/26/2005 9:34:54 AM 7/27/2005 Jason Groshong jkgdesign@yahoo.com coach height I am designing a garage for a customer who is currently out of the state in his 2005 Model, what is the actual overall exterior height and of his coach to air conditioners and or satellite dome. Please advise.

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1636 7/26/2005 10:32:30 PM 7/27/2005 Brion Johnston nmbjohnston@aol.com I'm looking at a 76 Newell I have a '79 Newell. The previous owner replaced the Cummins 555 on it with a Cummins 903 with a turbocharger. Mine has several thousand miles on it and it has run very well. I don't think there were any major modifications to make it fit or work - at least the repair records didn't indicate anything significant. I don't know how hard it would be to find a used or rebuilt one or what it would cost, however.

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1637 7/27/2005 6:33:34 AM 7/27/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com coach height We would expecct that the overall height to the top of the a/c units or satellite dome on a 2005 Newell is 13' 3" plus or minus an inch. However, common sense dictates that this dimension be confirmed in the field before construction. "Measure twice, cut once."

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1638 7/27/2005 10:12:28 AM 7/31/2005 Bill Cosselmon wcmachines@adelphia.net Preowned Newells, through 1992 1985 NEWELL Motor coach 38' 3", 8V92TA, 450HP Detroit turbocharged diesel, 4 speed Allison automatic transmission Jake brake, 95K miles, rearview camera. trailer hitch, New black Norcold refrigerator, New washer/dryer, New ultra-thick carpet pad and carpet, New flooring, Non-smoker, Excellent Paint, New Batteries (6), inverter, convection/microwave, central vacuum, Perkins diesel generator, large shower/tub. Pics http://users.adelphia.net/~wcmachines/index.htm $64,000

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1639 7/29/2005 5:06:32 PM 7/31/2005 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net Tire load range For Newell tech support - question -
Replacing tires on our 79 Newell 38 foot 2 axle. The weight placard says 12000 max front and 18500 max rear - total 30500lbs. We weighed the coach and it was right at 11000 front and 17000 rear in operating config. All the old tires are load range G. No problem on the rear - but the max weight for Michelin load range G single axle (front) is 12350lbs at 105PSI.
Most trucks use load range G with 12000 lbs on front axle. Question - Is that enough cushion? or should I consider load range H or J for the front?
Thanks in advance.

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1640 7/30/2005 9:04:56 AM 7/31/2005 Jon Kabbe jonlt@charter.net I'm looking at a 76 Newell I have a 77 coach with rear twin beds that the previous owner changed from a 555 to a 6V92T. The engine box above the engine had to be widened somewhat so the twin beds had to be raised about 10 inches. Also a much larger rear radiator was installed. I was told it was oversize so that cooling would never be a problem. From the structure around the radiator it's not obvious what changes were made. My sense is that hiring the change done would be tough to justify economically. If you can do the coach and chassis mods yourself it may be entertaining if you love that kind of thing.

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1641 7/30/2005 4:37:25 PM 7/31/2005 Ken White admin@LuxuryCoachLifestyle.com I'm looking at a 76 Newell Hi Brian Johnston or anyone else who may want to comment on this post! I have been pondering what to do with my 1976 Newell with the 555? I also own a 1978 with the 6V92T turbo which was switched out by a previous owner in 1986 from a non turbo 6V92. The rated horsepower is 375 and seems to fair well. The 555 in the 1976 only has around 150k miles but has some rattling going on the left side of the engine and smokes gray on that bank, I was thinking of changing the engine out with a modern power plant but since Newell does not really think it's feasable I may consider the Cummins 903 since, if it is easier and does not need the trans changed. I see a lot of 903 engines around, what I'm wondering is what kind of power are you getting out of yours with the turbo?

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1642 7/30/2005 6:59:30 PM 7/31/2005 Ken White admin@newell classic.com Checking VIN # for Newell Diesel Pushers I'm wondering if the unit production number is listed in the VIN? If so, what digits?

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1643 7/30/2005 7:10:42 PM 7/31/2005 Ken White admin@newell classic.com Inside wheel wells? I would like to know what year did Newell raise the floor above the wheel wells and how much did it raise the basement storage area?

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1644 7/30/2005 7:20:22 PM 7/31/2005 Ken White admin@newell classic.com Pictures www.Newell Classic.com is now open for photo posting! All Newell owners are invited to post and host their coach pictures, even if you are selling your Newell, please post and share them for others to enjoy. There are about 20 or so Newells currently hosted on the site. If anyone needs assistance loading picture's just email me and I will help you. I can also make arrangements for those who do not have access to a digital camera to mail me their pictures and I will scan them, and then return mail the originals back to you. You can post information along with the pictures.

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1645 7/30/2005 7:30:40 PM 7/31/2005 Ken White admin@LuxuryCoachLifestyle.com What year were tags added? I would like to know what year Newell offered the tag axle? What length and engines had the tag axle?

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1646 7/31/2005 4:50:44 PM 8/1/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com What year were tags added? The first tag axle (three axle) Newell was built in 1978. The next was not built until 1986, with Detroit Diesel 8V92 power. The coach was a 40 footer. Since then, coaches from 39 ft. have been built with tag axles, although in the late 1980s, coaches up to 40 ft. could also be ordered with two axles.

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1647 7/31/2005 11:50:15 PM 8/1/2005 Chuck Kennedy maverick@merr.com Newell P-2000i Hi-What's the time frame to acquire a P-2000i? Is there a waiting period?

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1648 8/1/2005 4:31:00 AM 8/1/2005 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Tire load range We suggest that you weigh the coach in loaded configuration and purchase tires to match the loaded weight. You can upgrade, for example to a load range H, but you will need to run at a higher inflation level to get the increase load capacity (remember that the air in the tire supports the weight and reduces sidewall flexing and destructive heat generation; the tread and sidewalls do not carry the load). That said, a couple of observations: across the spectrum of radial truck tires, we have seen the best reliability from Michelin tires. Some other brands have also performed well, although many have not. The most common problem we have seen with this tire type is uneven tread wear on the steer axle. No brand, including Michelin, has been immune to this.