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WildCat
02-02-2013, 04:53 PM
What is a realistic Newell Cargo Carry Capacity . I see what appears to be in the neighborhood of 3k - 5k does this seem correct?

WildCat

Newell Attack
02-02-2013, 05:10 PM
There is no one answer but I find that that we need at least 1500 pounds per person.

NewellCrazy
02-02-2013, 08:00 PM
Here is a reprint of Gary Rinker's article concerning coach cargo capacity in the rv industry and many or may not apply to Newell's.

It helps identify the meaning of the different weight rating systems used in recent years. You can't just compare weight capacities unless all are using the same system (CCC vs OCCC labeled RV's).


"The federal government has stepped in and issued regulations concerning weight labels in Cars and RVs. Previous RV weight labels were under the auspices of the RVIA and all their member companies used them while others did not. The new label, called the Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity label (OCCC) will supersede the previous RVIA label, i.e. the RVIA will no longer require its members to place the RVIA version of the label on each RV. The new label requirement requirement went into effect June 2, 2008.

The main effect is that OCCC replaces the RVIA CCC definition and that's important because OCCC is a much different number. The previous CCC was a net number, showing how much capacity was left for actual cargo after subtracting everything else that is normally carries, e.g. people, water and propane. The new OCCC combines people, water and cargo weight into one number, leaving it to the owner to compute how much he has of each on board. Propane, however, is NOT considered cargo and is included in added to the chassis UVW (Unladen vehicle Weight), which also includes fuel, oil and coolant.

The new OCCC label will show the maximum combined weight of occupants and cargo, the weight of a full tank of fresh water and the number of seating positions that have seat belts.

OCCC is computed as follows: OCCC = GVWR - (UVW + Propane)

Simply add the weight of a full load of propane (including the tanks, if portable tanks are used) to the Unladen Vehicle Weight (UVW) and subtract that number from the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)

Regulations specify that the label must be permanently affixed and visibly located on the interior of the forward-most exterior passenger door on the RIGHT side of the vehicle. That should make the new label much easier to locate than the former RVIA label, which could be tucked away almost anywhere.

Another feature of the new regulation is a requirement that dealers must provide an updated weight label if they add more than 100 lbs to the factory weight between the time they receive the RV and its sale to the first retail customer. This assures the customer gets a useful OCCC number.

TIRES, AXLE GAWR and GVWR

The new regulation also stipulates that the tires must be capable of supporting the axle at full load, i.e. the sum of the tire carrying capacities on an axle must equal or exceed the axle GAWR. On a motorhome, the sum of the axle GAWRs must also equal or exceed the vehicle GVWR.

For those who may be interested in how the OCCC compares to the previous CCC value and label, the RVIA defined CCC as the cargo (only) carrying capacity and it did not include occupants, water or propane. It was calculated like this:

CCC = GVWR - (UVW + Water + Propane + SCWR)

SCWR = # sleeping positions x 154 lbs [There must be a seat belt position for every designated sleeping position.]

The RVIA CCC was a much smaller number, but the rest of the RVIA label provided the estimated amount of each other item of weight as well