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Neweller 10-18-2012 03:34 PM

Should Newell Quit Overbuilding Their Coaches?
 
Recently I visited with a very nice gentlemen who has been building very nice bus conversions for a long long time. I really enjoyed talking with this man and learning a lot about Eagle's, Wanderlodges and even Newell's.

This guy told me straight out that his problem with a Newell Coach is that they are over-built and that way too much engineering has gone into them. Hmm..... Is this really such a bad thing? Now, I admit that Newell's being built over-kill as he suggests does hurt the fuel economy some. His conversion with an upgraded 60 Series being lighter than a Newell gets around 10.5 mpg and at $4.00 plus a gallon that is quite the savings from 6-7 mpg.

Now, I am not advocating Newell Coach change a thing in the consideration of over-building. Just think the topic is interesting.

BikerBob 10-18-2012 04:25 PM

From our point of view and after checking out many cookie cutter motor homes that was one of the many reasons I was drawn to a Newell. Once I found out how well they were built I knew that if I was serious about full timing I had to own a Newell! I'm still searching by the way and every day brings us closer to newell coach ownership.

Bob

Dan B 10-18-2012 05:39 PM

Hey Ken,

Just out of curiousity, what was the conversion with the Series 60? Weight is a factor but other things affect fuel mileage.

Regards,

Dan

Neweller 10-18-2012 05:48 PM

Dan, it was an Eagle bus. The guy loves to put Detroit Diesel 60 Series in place of other engines for the optimum of optimum in his book. I seen where a newer Cummins came out of a 2009 Wanderlodge to be replaced with a 60 Series. Main reason's were to improve mileage and get rid of the DPF.

JustDustin 10-18-2012 06:29 PM

Newell Coaches are built to last and are built to be one of the best coaches on the road. In my eyes it is the best coach out there. I say they should keep building them with quality and continue the route they are going. Call it overbuilt if you'd like, but I would say that is the reason those like myself love our Newells.

MarkofSJC 10-19-2012 10:19 PM

That's what I love about the USA ~ products can be purchased to meet anyones' needs or desires.

I totally agree with Biker Bob...we, too, are inching towards a Newell (it's like a gravitational pull). Determined to "buy our last coach ~ first" every other coach we tour has some engineering compromises evident in multiple places. Will they matter? Depends on who you are asking...but they do to me!

The most immediately obvious thing is the size of windows. Is it me, or are most motor homes patterned after "Hummer" designs ~ more of a "turrent" than a window? Yes, it's expensive to keep a high "R" value of insulation with big windows, but I really want to see the surrounding area where I've driven days to get to! (and enjoy all the sites along the way!).

As for the mileage, if this were going to be a taxi cab rather than a home that transports itself from place to place, it would change my level of concern...but I'm not using it to go grocery shopping!

Just my point of view...
Mark

speedingsport 10-19-2012 11:32 PM

I wouldn't say a Newell is overbuilt but I would say a lot of other coach brands are underbuilt, hows that? :laugh:

Will Procter 10-20-2012 04:26 PM

The day Newell slacks on quality is the day I switch to Prevost.

Dan B 10-22-2012 05:26 PM

Thanks Ken!

TomGauger 03-23-2014 04:36 PM

As some others I run across, I'm ever inching toward a Prevost...a major "up" from my ageing Monaco Exec. Lately I got some telling numbers from a sales guy at Liberty. The typical H3 goes out the door leaving very little weight available for the toad, food, clothing and all the other stuff we bring along. The Liberty H3 he mentioned was weighed with full fuel, water, and DEF. That left only 700 pounds availabe before hitting 54,500 pounds, the GVWR! (This coach has a 189 gallon water tank and he said to leave most of that at home. I'm now getting far more serious about a Newell. My partner likes the mid-entry with its better access to the galley and we BOTH like the idea of the rear lounge. We've never seen one and Brian Pitts says Newell only builds those to order. So, can anyone answer questions about the rear lounge? How wide is the Murphy bed and is it comfortable? Do owners feel the rear lounge was a good idea?


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