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02-08-2010, 11:03 PM
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The documentation that came with my coach idicates #9447 air springs on the steer & drive axles. I have not confirmed this & some on this forum feel these axles can not have the same air bags!
The documentation also indicates air bag # 8992 X 4 on the tag axle with an axle capacity of 14K. Your's could be different. You had indicated 10 air bags, so I'm thinking you would have 2 bags on the tag?
I have no info on the valves, but I'll bet they are all the same!
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1991 41.5' #266
8v92
2009 Pontiac Vibe GT Toad
Fulltime on the road
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02-09-2010, 03:50 AM
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Thanks Gordon,
I have research the Blue Bird Forum and after taking pictures and comparing part numbers I am 95% sure that my steer and drive used the same bags for a total of 8 Firestone: W01-358-9447 The tag uses 2 bags; Firestone: W01-358-9457 which are identical spec except for the air supply which feed through mounting bolt instead of the 1" hole in the 9447. Still trying to figure what my option are the the 3 leveling valves. I thinks the Firestone's may be the better choice because they have bumper inside the bags and I'm not sure the Good Year do.
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1996 Newell 45' #422
2004 Newell 45'8" #689
60 Series Detriot
Yellow Dodge Truck
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02-09-2010, 01:21 PM
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Ron,
My coach, and others I have looked at used a Ridewell leveling valve. Ridewell has superseded that design with a new design called Extreme Air http://www.ridewellcorp.com/Web/Site.nsf/ID/air
When I look at the new design, I am not sure if it is a direct drop in or not. Some fabrication may be required as the air in and out appears to be in a different place than the original valves
I haven't looked very hard on the net for a source. I do have a leaking valve, courtesy of my alignment "mechanic", so I am looking to replace the two rear ones.
I have also looked into King of the Road, since they are all metal. Most of the buses run them. http://www.heightcontrolvalve.com/ This may require fabrication of a bracket.
There is nothing special about the leveling valves. Well except you have to be a contortionist to replace the rear ones with the wheels still on the coach.
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Richard Rhonda Ty and Alex Entrekin
1995 Newell # 390 DD Series 60, Allison World Trans
Subaru Outback toad
CoMotion Tandem
Often wrong, but seldom in doubt
Rhonda's chronicle https://wersquared.wordpress.com/
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02-09-2010, 02:04 PM
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Here's where I bought my ridewell valves:
Ridewell corp.
Springfield, MO
417-833-4565
$55.00/pc COD shipped to my door. At that time they didnt take credit cards. They are geared to sell to jobbers with accounts but were very accommodating as long as I sent a company check or paid COD.
part# 6300BNAE16 rear?
part# 6300BFAB10 front?
I ended up using both on the rear. The only difference seemed to be in the linkage...I used the linkage that was already on my coach.
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1993 Newell 45'#316, 1976 Trans Am 455, 1967 GTO, 1953 Chevrolet 3105 (panel truck),1952 Chevrolet 3600,1969 Airstream Overlander. Always fixing something!
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02-09-2010, 08:48 PM
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Dean,
Did you take the rear wheels off to replace the valves, or work around them? Just curious.
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Richard Rhonda Ty and Alex Entrekin
1995 Newell # 390 DD Series 60, Allison World Trans
Subaru Outback toad
CoMotion Tandem
Often wrong, but seldom in doubt
Rhonda's chronicle https://wersquared.wordpress.com/
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02-09-2010, 11:29 PM
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Location: Indiana
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Actually I hired a skinny guy to work around the tires. If you jack it up and block it there is room. I'm old and fat so I occasionally get help with work done under the coach. I do most of the rest of the work myself.
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1993 Newell 45'#316, 1976 Trans Am 455, 1967 GTO, 1953 Chevrolet 3105 (panel truck),1952 Chevrolet 3600,1969 Airstream Overlander. Always fixing something!
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03-02-2010, 02:07 PM
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finaly have the drag link coming from spain , should be hear friday , i will post a picture
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03-03-2010, 11:10 AM
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Hope things work out Paul. Look forward to seeing the pictures.
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03-20-2010, 07:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paultracy3
the bottom steering bar that runs thru the frame is big , probable 2,3/8 diameter. i need the the end piece that threads onto the steering bar on both sides . they are wore out . my mechanic is nervous to take it apart , cuz if it gets damaged and we cant get a replacement . then im realy screwed . the response we got from newell was , we dont stock it and dont know a part # on it . we stopped using them along time ago . we then asked for a build sheet on my bus , and they said they dont keep them for more than 7 years
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I would like to help but please call the item you need by a name that most mechanic would understand
First " idiem " is not known in any parts catalogs
Denis
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03-22-2010, 02:46 PM
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we got the part in from spain , it was the right style part just not big enough . they are sending another one over . hopefully it will be the right size
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04-09-2010, 11:51 PM
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i finally got the right part for the front steering , 2 shipments from spain both the wrong part . and found a guy in texas , from a guy who knew a guy who knew a guy that new this guy that thought he had the part ... and did !!!!!
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04-09-2010, 11:56 PM
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hear is the part
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04-10-2010, 12:33 AM
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Location: Heartland
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Wow! That is all I can say. So glad you finally found the hook up.
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Previous Owner of 3 Newell's
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05-06-2011, 01:11 AM
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Paul,
Can you post a part number and your source for the part. This will help other owners with similar vintage coaches.
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