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03-09-2009, 02:33 PM
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Brake Light problem found!
Thanks for all of the help guys,
The problem turned out to be in the Hazard Switch. The Brake Light Circuit is interrupted when the Hazard Circuit is energized. I couldn't find the part so I added a jumper to prove the repair and get the coach operational. I now have Brake Lights, Turn Signals and Hazard Lights (as long as I don't use the Brakes and Hazards together).
I will try contacting Newell later today and find out if they can help with the switch assembly. I tried to get the switch assembly at my local NAPA but they were of little help. I may try again later knowing that the assembly may be a GMC Truck.
Thanks again for all of the help guys, your help is greatly appreciated.
Steve
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03-09-2009, 04:53 PM
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Good find Steve. I forgot the hazard warning switch was in the circuit. I suspect that a 1980 or 1981 Chevy truck would have the same warning switch in it.
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03-09-2009, 06:47 PM
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Just got off the phone with Newell. I was able to talk with a knowledgeable Technician, Bobby. He was well informed and told me that they have had allot of trouble with this Hazard Switch. The replacement Turn and Hazard Switch comes complete in a new Cup Assembly. They were not sure what Column it was but most likely an International.
Parts were in stock and will go out UPS later today and I should have them by the end of the week.
Steve
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03-09-2009, 07:33 PM
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Steve, that is great news! Maybe I should order one too for when mine goes bad! Out of curosity, what was the cost????
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03-09-2009, 11:52 PM
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Clarke,
The price that I was told for the assembly is $160.00. I will let you know how hard it is to install and maybe give you a hand with yours , if you need it. WE should look at yours to ensure that it the one that he said was problematic.
I am including pictures of my Column to help you identify it.
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03-10-2009, 05:14 AM
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Looks like mine....we'll compare in person in a couple of weeks!
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03-18-2009, 02:23 PM
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I installed the replacement Switch Assembly the other day. I did have a couple of problems and would like to give you a "heads up" in case one of you needs to make this up-grade.
1st; the J-Bolts that secure the Cup to the Column needed a couple of washers in order to allow tightening. Simple fix with a run to the Hardware Store but the parts were not in the "Kit" making a repair on the road a little problematic.
2nd; The Steering Wheel Adapter made contact with the Hazard Switch Wiring and created a Short in the Brake Light Circuit...very frustrating! A few chosen words and I was able to move the Terminal on the Hazard Switch enough to allow it to clear the Wheel Adapter, much easier than having the Adapter Machined.
Other than these problems it does look like I have all of my Rear Lights Working properly now.
Thanks for all of the help,
Steve
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03-18-2009, 02:31 PM
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Steve, thanks for the followup. Always glad to hear that a mystery problem has been solved.
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01-14-2010, 11:12 AM
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The brake lights on my 38 Classic recently stopped working and after reading through this forum, I was able to quickly "fix" my situation; however, word to the wise, I found that my only problem was that my hazard toggle was partially pushed in. Once I pushed it all the way in and pulled it all the way out, my brake lights starting working. Therefore, I conclude that my hazard light assembly may be wearing out; however, always check for the easy and obvious before ripping things apart.
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01-14-2010, 02:26 PM
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Great advice.....many here, including myself, are predisposed to assuming that the worst has happened, and sometimes take a long time to check the simple things first, like the hazard toggle, or a loose ground wire, or blown fuse.
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01-15-2010, 01:25 AM
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38,
It sounds as though your problem is closely related to our troubles. Chuck at Newell Parts was able to send me a replacement Assembly (the old parts are no longer available and the replacement parts may be in short supply, not sure). If you do replace the assembly request my drawing from Newell or PM me for it. You may need to machine the Hub fro the Steering Wheel.
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Steve & Tricia
1982 Newell 38' (built before #1) 6V92 DD, 5 Speed Allison, 12.5 KW Kohler, Couch used to make into a Bed but I fixed it!
https://newellshowcase.com/thumbnails.php?album=214
2007 Yukon, 1981 CJ7 Laredo, 2002 Honda CRV, 1955 Thunderbird, 1952 Pontiac Sedan Delivery, 1952 Ford 8N, 1958 Airstream, 1959 Glasspar 16' Avalon, Cabin in the Woods........what will I work on next
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