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Old 02-02-2008, 04:00 AM   #1
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Default Coach build numbers needed!

Hello Newell Owners,

We are asking all Newell owners who have pictures in the Gallery, if they could provide us with their coach build number along with the year, gallery number, so we can include it in the gallery.

Thank you for your cooperation,

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Old 02-02-2008, 08:14 AM   #2
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GREAT IDEA!!

I will be happy to start it off:

1992 Album #2 and #3 are both my coach (#2 was prior to my ownership, #3 was after my purchase). The build number is 281.

1992 Album #6 is build number 283. I correspond with Larry, the owner of 283 periodically.

1990 Album #2 is build number 242. I had a contract to buy this coach at one time.

1991 Album #3 is build number 277. I had looked at purchasing it and had a test drive in it.
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:38 PM   #3
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Where would I find the "build #" on a 1982 Newell? I just purchased this coach 6 weeks ago.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:49 PM   #4
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Interesting question. The real answer with your 1982 is 'I don't know' and to the best of my knowledge there is no easy way to determine that information. From 1967-1983 there were a total of 384 Newell's built (I believe). So your was probably from the first 370 Newell's ever built. HOWEVER, a build number was not part of the VIN number at that time and the coach numbers you see posted by owners on this site do not match up with the information I just gave.

Let me delve further into this subject. Newell changed their numbering schema several times over the years. Your 1982 has the advantage of falling into the currently federally-mandated VIN system, which was implemented in 1980. Unfortunately, you are outside the beginning of the second most recent Newell numbering schema which began in 1983 but was only incorporated into the VIN in April 1989 with deliver of the Series 2000 coaches. Beginning in 1983, Newell began an internal numbering system starting with coach 1. However, even that number was not utilized in the VIN. Beginning with the Series 2000 coaches, the last three digits of the VIN corresponded with Newell's internal number, which was 214 at that time. Since April 1989, the last three digits of the VIN have been referred to as the Coach #. Prior to that time, there is not that I am aware of, an easy way to determine a coach number and if you did, it would conflict with numbers used in the VIN due to the 384 coaches built prior to the numbering system begun in 1983.

Now, one further spin on the ball. In 2006, Newell changed the numbering system used in the VIN to account for the 'missing years' of Newell coach construction. During 2006, Newell skipped forward in VIN numbers to get the number in the VIN to match the actual number of Newell's constructed since the first coach in 1967. So, you will find no coaches with VIN numbers between about 816 (that may not be exactly correct but was the preliminary estimate of the coach number change) and 1200 (the preliminary estimate of the first of the 'new' coach numbers).

So unfortunately, those with Newell classics don't have an easily discernable coach # like those beginning with the Series 2000 and extending through the current P200i's.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:36 PM   #5
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I found an invoice from The Newell Corporation this morning in the documentation given to me by the last owner. It is the purchase order invoice for the coach back in March of 1982. It has stamped on it "No. 408", and in the upper right hand corner it shows "Invoice #: C-408". Is it possible this is my coach number?
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:52 PM   #6
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Possible but it seems just a little on the high side.
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:59 PM   #7
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Mike...you're probably right now that I look at your coach # which is way lower than 408...OK...I'll keep looking.
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Old 04-16-2008, 05:37 PM   #8
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The real issue is that since Newell started their numbering system over beginning at 1 again in 1983, there would be duplicate number from 1 through about 384, then a skip of numbers from from the low 800's to about 1200. As an example, recently Newell had advertised for sale two 2007 coaches, #810 and #1200, although 1200 just sold.

In my earlier post I indicated that the change in numbering took place during 2006, which I believe to be correct, however, I should have noted that it was during the 2007 model year.

If in fact a 'coach number' which could be obtained for the classic models prior to 1983, we would still need to have some alternate designator such as the 'C-xxx' you mentioned since there would be nearly 400 duplicate numbers otherwise. Even finding the coach numbers for the 1983-1990 classic models (I understand that there was at least 1 classic model built as a 1990 model) would be a challenge since everyone has depended on the last digits of the VIN for the coach number since some time in 1989.
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:31 PM   #9
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1993 Album 4 is my coach 316. Somebody has hacked in to the comments section of that album....Can you fix?
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:35 PM   #10
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Hi HoosierDaddy,

I will check on it now.
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