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Old 10-15-2013, 01:25 AM   #11
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Thanks Yachts !
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:10 AM   #12
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Liberty is still in business. Liberty and Millennium are both fine coaches, and are producing more coaches than any other convertor at this time. Featherlite and Marathon are still building a few coaches a year.

The headroom is an issue I would look at. I hit my head walking into the bathroom in an H345 that was a Marathon Conversion. I believe the larger headroom helps make the Newells feel bigger.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:23 PM   #13
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Yachts,That is incorrect,Liberty is at the moment the largest Prevost converter at 14 per year,Millennium is also converting 14 per year,Marathon and Featherlite which was purchased by Amadas 2-3 years ago are converting 6-8 per year,Outlaw might be doing 5 per year.Liberty is and has been considered the high end bus conversion with the most robust systems and they have always manufactured within the Prevost weight limits.A four slide Liberty with full fuel,and full water will weigh less than 54,000 LBS,the weight limit is 54,500 GVWR.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:47 PM   #14
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Prevost H3 is 83 inches from floor to ceiling,but the bay space is large enough for some golf carts and some Harleys,the XLII is 86 inches from floor to ceiling,and the new X3 is 89 inches from floor to ceiling.As we all know to get something in our coaches we must also give up something,if bay space is your preference then the H3 is the one if you want interior height as I do then I must give up some bay space.I could be very happy with an H3 because I am not 6 feet tall but a tall person might not be comfortable in an H3,the XLII is taller and just feels larger.
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:40 PM   #15
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My 96 Newell has ceiling heights of 80" in front and 86 in rear with the raise roof. My 04 is raised all the way and is between 85" to 88" front to back. I have both coaches up for sale and need to sell one of them.
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Hey guys is Newell the only one that uses a steerable tag axle , I really like that feature, my wife and I were talking about the drivers area on the Prevost it sits lower then the drivers area on the Newell which I also like for safety. Please Correct me if i'm wrong on this.
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The H3 coach sits lower,the other Prevost the driver is at the floor height.
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Thanks jack14r. I wasn't aware who was still in business.. I'm really surprised at the low number of units marathon is doing.. I figured they were 20-30 a year.. I know NASCAR was a big part of marathons business I wonder if many of those are now featherlight customers
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I understand that the owners of Marathon decided that they would either sell the business or continue in business but they would not invest any more assets into it,as a result the deals with the Nascar customers are over.The current Featherlite owners are selling a few to a variety of racers but they don't seem to be interested in selling to the traditional buyer.I think that this type of product must be sold by an educated salesman and not a dealer like Tom Johnson who is selling tag trailers to POS motorhomes.If you look at those that have and are successful in the ultra high end motor coach world the standard is that the customer deals with the factory,Newell,Liberty,Millennium,and Marathon deal direct to the customer and I would not purchase this type of product from a dealer.The low number of units is really interesting,back in 07 there were about 165 Prevost converted,now about 50 are converted for motor home use,the big 4 have virtually no new inventory,they are selling it as fast as they are building it,I think that this has opened the door for Newell and Foretravel to attract a customer that might not have even looked at their product 5 years ago.
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As a long-time "lurker" who has been researching this area for over a year, I'd like to add a few observations.

Chassis is key. Newell creates their own, and it can be altered in anyway to accommodate the wishes of the owner - different slide lengths, front or mid-entry door, some or all slides flat floor, etc. Every single other manufacture must work within the restrictions of the "box" they're using as a chassis. This is why Prevost was typically a dual slide offering.

Single Focus/Use. This freedom allows Newell to offer options others can't match. From the small (garbage disposals, trash compactors, murphy beds, etc.) to the large (generator and aquahot exhaust through the roof, steering rear tag axial, generators mounted in front or side locations, active suspension, 240 dryer, heat and cooktop options, etc).

Industrial Grade Everything. If you were to strip away all the glitz and just look at the components being used, Newell always goes over the top. They were featuring heavy duty axials and 365-series tires, disk brakes all around and lots more before most any other manufacturer offered it. I'm fairly certain they've also had higher standards on insulation than anyone else as well. Just the way they construct and power their slide out is still unmatched.

Always An Early Adopter. They don't rest on their laurels, either. Active suspension? Already offered for more than a year. When Allison transmissions couldn't handle the higher output of the 650 engines, they offered a ZF with 12 speeds. No one matches their rear turning tag, which allows the coach incredible maneuverability. I think they were the first or among the first to use tablet to tie all the coach systems into for even greater ease.

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