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10-18-2010, 09:39 AM
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Nitrogen for tires?
Was wondering if anyone runs nitrogen in their tires?
An interesting article may be found at-
http://www.getnitrogen.org/pdf/Nitro...Big%20Rigs.pdf
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10-18-2010, 04:36 PM
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yea, it looks interesting. that said. my tires will have 95% tread left on them when i change them. for me, it is time and not wear that is the issue.
so, not worth the time or money or effort for me
tom
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10-18-2010, 10:56 PM
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Brad,
I am sure you mean 100% nitrogen. The rest of us run 78% nitrogen which is about what dry air contains. I am not convinced I need 100%.
Russ
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10-18-2010, 11:46 PM
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Thought it was an interesting article and wanted to know if there were any Newell owners that put 100% nitrogen in their tires.
Seems by the explanation of the deterioration that takes place it may be one less thing that could lead to a blow out.
I am not sure if there is a cost for nitrogen.
I also found interesting the mention that wet air can cause rust etc. particles that when checking the air pressure with a gauge that the valve stem could get clogged.
I have one that sticks and if I didn't have the covers with a seal then the tire would eventually loose air.
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10-19-2010, 02:37 AM
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Ok about
We have used Nitrogen in the aircrft industry for a very log time.. Think the tires on the Newell are expensive? But that's not the reason fully. It has been found that the pressures are more stable with Nitrogen and the biggie is mosture.. aluminum wheels corrode... the air dryers are better than nothing however... In my shop it was handy & we set the reguator and filler er up the high pressure was ez.. Didn't need an air multiplier....Our standard was to insure no more than 5% oxygen content in the tires...
if you have clean (no oil) DRY.. (NO MOSTURE) air then you're good.. you'll never know the diff.... unless you winter in Minot and check your air @
-20` and have a frozen schreader valve.....
Here is another link that touts nitrogen.....
http://www.nitrogendirect.com/N2Info.htm
Jimmy
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10-19-2010, 09:43 AM
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Thanks for that article Jim, very extensive, very interesting. Seems to me every little advantage with tires is worth considering especially when it comes to safety. Wondering what the cost is of nitrogen!
Brad
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10-19-2010, 02:05 PM
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Fountain Tire in Calgary, one of the few tire shops that has nitrogen, charges $15.00 a tire to switch over.
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10-19-2010, 02:54 PM
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So what happens when you are on the road and need to add some pressure to a tire? say a steer tire is low.
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10-19-2010, 03:10 PM
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Steve, You would just blow hard......like a hot air balloon?
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10-19-2010, 03:13 PM
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OK that shouldn't be a problem. I was afraid that I would need to carry a Nitrogen bottle around.
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10-19-2010, 03:36 PM
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The dealer who actually supplies nitrogen says its ok to top off with compressed air when you need to. The large dealer who does not supply it suggests that the nitrogen use manual says only a small amount of compressed air should be used with the nitrogen if necessary. I'm not sure what they are trying to tell us but I imagine the effectiveness of the nitrogen decreases when diluted.
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10-19-2010, 03:58 PM
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It looks like the air we breath has 78% Nitrogen so I'm sure that the effectiveness would be diluted to certain degree (22% of what is added) if I had to use my compressor.
I'll stay with my current process. I check the tire pressure regularly and use a small club when stopped. If needed I turn on my on-board compressor and top off the tire(s) that may be a low. Heading to the tire shop just seems to complicated at least while I am still working.
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2007 Yukon, 1981 CJ7 Laredo, 2002 Honda CRV, 1955 Thunderbird, 1952 Pontiac Sedan Delivery, 1952 Ford 8N, 1958 Airstream, 1959 Glasspar 16' Avalon, Cabin in the Woods........what will I work on next
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10-19-2010, 08:10 PM
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You use the nitrogen locator of course. Over 1800 dealers
http://getnitrogen.org/
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09-22-2011, 04:49 AM
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Got a friend who carries a nitrogen bottle. Small bottle, high pressure, lots of volume. But given the high percentage of nitrogen in the air we breathe & put in our tires, paying for an inert gas that's dry & doesn't expand/contract with temperature changes hardly seems worth it.
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09-22-2011, 01:39 PM
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Nitrogen is very commonly used in race cars. The pressure differential between cold and hot tires is not as great allowing more accuracy in "tuning" the suspension.
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