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08-31-2012, 09:34 PM
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Interior flooring ideas?
Greetings! I'm still talking about redoing the floor in our Newell. Barb's on me about it and I hate to admit it but she's right. I need to quit talking and start doing, I'm hesitant to rip out the old flooring because then once started, means I'll have to finish the project. The old classic needs some work and I don't have a problem doing it myself to save some money. Once I start I'll be whistling while I work. Those who have redone their flooring, do you have any suggestions on floor material worth installing? Or any advice on what to stay away from?
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Colorado Springs, Colorado
1979 Classic Newell Coach
1967 Ford Mustang
1969 Chevrolet El Camino SS
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08-31-2012, 10:39 PM
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Wally, we had a '73 that had pergo flooring and it worked quite nice. In our '86, we're thinking about going with a marine indoor/outdoor carpeting. We have a couple of dogs and don't always park in the tidiest of locations, so ease of cleanup is important for us.
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08-31-2012, 11:13 PM
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So you can use that floating engineered flooring? I figured you could but wasn't sure if you should let it float or does it need to be glued down? We have hardwood in our house and it's glued down on concrete slab.
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Colorado Springs, Colorado
1979 Classic Newell Coach
1967 Ford Mustang
1969 Chevrolet El Camino SS
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09-01-2012, 12:45 AM
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Look for the posts on flooring and you will find Ernie who is the Newell flooring guru and his contact info is there too
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09-01-2012, 01:50 AM
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We seen a Newell yesterday with what looked like Pergo and to us it just looked cheap. My sister had it in her home with two little dogs having accidents now and then wthin three years it was ruined. We said NEXT!
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09-01-2012, 04:01 AM
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We installed a pergo-type floor throughout our Newell over 5 years ago. It has gone through several years of Irish Wolfhounds. The only issue I have had is two sections I had to replace after a leak from the shower in the bathroom and one from the ice maker in the kitchen. I have a sample of a product that is similar to pergo but made of a more flexible vinyl material that looks like it would hold up much better to moisture. I got the sample from Neal. He put it in his '05 in the area where he had removed the couch and installed 2 recliners. Looks great.
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09-01-2012, 08:49 PM
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I kind of have to agree with Bernie & Darcy on this one. Coming from a building contractor background for what it’s worth in this great economy I have seen many products from real solid wood to great engineered products. There is a lot of hype with the engineered stuff and has been since the beginning. There have been so many lawsuits and failures with the engineered products like Pergo and the list goes on, I wouldn’t touch most of it with a 10ft pole. Some of my flooring guys made big commissions off all the stuff that goes with the flooring from the cleaners, glue, pads, and trim pieces.
Wood is by far the superior choice. How many 100 plus year old homes have you seen with it still going strong? And a lot of it even gets reclaimed for another 100. You take this engineered stuff that is made out of a like particle substance with tons of glue with many being formaldehyde based that scratches much more than the salesman will ever tell you. I know about piss from untrained dogs, puppies or older dogs with bladder problems. I too installed some of this stuff for a customer with pets doing just as I described causing permanent swelling and damage in the joints. Don’t get me wrong, my family has been raising show dogs for years and we love them. Wood is just better and if you don't mind sweeping and keeping a little wax on it, you’ll get an even better product or even use clear Varathane or polyurethane for additional wear protection..
If you have Laminate around doorways it has a tendency to get scratched up pretty well depending on traffic and what gets dragged across it. If you ever need to replace a piece then it is a real pain in the ass. While on the other hand with Wood you can sand a scratch, re-stain and spray some lacquer over the repair and you’re finished.
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09-01-2012, 09:21 PM
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Newell predominately uses carpet and or granite. They have used other materials where the customer requested it, wood, laminate, and tile. Carpet is not a great choice with pets and inclement weather. Wood is a good product. Cork flooring is touted as a good choice with dogs but I haven't tried it.
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09-01-2012, 09:35 PM
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Granite if you can afford it go for it! Hardwood is the real deal and you can't go wrong with it. I hear ya on wanting to do the work yourself. You can save money and know the job get's done right. That's my take, I like DIY projects!
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09-02-2012, 03:26 AM
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I recovered my bedroom floor with Centiva vinyl/wood flooring. It is expensive, but we really like it. Be sure to request Centiva (there's nothing like it).
We have BLACK carpet in the front of the coach: it is wonderful. Doesn't show any stains or wear. It is made by Fabrica and is also very expensive. It came in the Newell when it was built in 1998 (it's durable!). If you want something that will last and not show any wear - use these products.
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2005 Pilot
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09-02-2012, 03:34 AM
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Wally, there are some different advantages to both types of wood flooring. Some laminate’s can be found with a particle board backing, I'd avoid this type if I could. I
would try to go with laminate that has a ply backing due to it being pretty moisture resistant. The wear layer can be kind of thin on some, mainly the particleboard
backed type, unless its a commercial grade. Generally speaking when they use the term engineered wood it refers to a wood ply substrata under a veneered top
surface, these tend to be pricier but hold up fairly well. The best choice for quality is solid wood. Wide boards can be more prone to warping and cupping but if you flip
the board and see reliefs milled into the back it helps to stabilize the wood. I prefer a narrow hardwood over the wider board for motorcoach floors, but the installation
is more time consuming.. Ship-lap is a joint where if the wood does cup can tend to lift a board and it can be a problem, tongue and groove is more stable and any
cupping or movement is forced over a wider area of flooring and tends to lift and then set back down flat. It’s really kind of a personal preference but I would try to
avoid the particle backed laminate if at all possible. Even though manufacturers claim their products are moisture resistant, my experience is that they are not. Some
people claim to have great success with them, but in high humidity areas, my experience is they are really not intended for RV applications. Just try to go with top
notch products in your Newell and really do your homework. I know most of us really try too.
Michael, it sounds like you went with a better product for your application. I have heard yours looks really good. I too would really consider cork flooring, it is very
durable, great against noise, wears well and extremely lightweight which is always a plus.
Ken
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09-02-2012, 04:24 PM
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Several years ago, I replaced the carpet in my motorhome with solid prefinished oak flooring. As best I recall, it was produced by Mannington, bullnose was available for the steps, and it was tongue and grove, about 3/8" thick. I glued it in and used an air finishing nail gun into the grove. If the time comes to replace the carpet in my 2001, I will seriously consider prefinished wood.
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09-02-2012, 04:54 PM
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09-02-2012, 05:06 PM
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09-02-2012, 05:32 PM
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Nice Pics Ron, Have you done the same in your 1996 Newell ?
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09-02-2012, 05:55 PM
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Wally it looks like you got some. Good ideas given here.
I heard of the cork stuff. Haven't seen it installed though.
Ron what you did there in your 89 looks real sweet! Leeann wants hardwood now.
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09-02-2012, 11:32 PM
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09-03-2012, 12:35 AM
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Ron, you had it going on in both your coaches. Your current coach kind of reminds me of staying at a place called the Royal Sogo Palace. Cool Cool Cool dude, Thanks for the pics.
Wally, that beautiful maple might be right up your alley, as it will lighten things up and wear like a son-of-gun.
Ken
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09-03-2012, 12:46 AM
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My wife and I agree the maple is gorgeous in the coach. Looks like the exterior was a pretty blue metallic. Our Eagle conversion has solid cherry throughout and we love the way its held out for all these years. I would say go wood Wally as any stone I'm aware of is much to heavy for your chassis.
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09-03-2012, 08:34 PM
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Ron, your coaches remind us of a couple of the Newell's we had owned. Some similar tastes. We inherited a coach from Darcy's father and it had beautiful maple and walnut two-toned hardwood. I believe the pics are on our computer down in Belize. When we return I'll try and remember to upload them here to the Newell Forum.
Very nice of you to share by the way. Believe it or not it confirms some ideas for us while in our hunt for another Newell. A very tedious adventure.
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