Tech Talk Archives 8

[Neweller]

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900 1/22/2003 12:21:05 PM 1/22/2003 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Fuel Tank Leak, While we understand your preference to fix the fuel tank in place, we know of no safe procedure to accomplish this. Our recommendation is to remove the tank, thoroughly steam clean it to remove any diesel residue, then weld the tank, and finally reinstall it. This is a potentially dangerous job and should be done only by a competant technician who is experienced at repairing fuel tanks. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DO THIS AT HOME!

[Erika]

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901 1/22/2003 8:56:08 PM 1/23/2003 J Clark jvclark02@cs.com Fuel Tank Leak, Hi Joe-
This is one of those- 'been there, done that' things for me. For me the hardest part was emptying and refilling the tank (three times)and you have already done that.

I agree with Newells tech staff. Pull the tank and take it to a good welding shop. They can weld it in a matter of minutes (diesel tanks are easy to weld).

It is fairly easy to remove and two people can manhandle it. Be sure to flush it out after welding to get the 'burnt' residue out.

I tried the 'in frame' repair once and within a matter of months, I was seeping diesel again. You might consider having the welder reinforce (weld) the mounting plates as they seem to be a common failure point on fuel tanks.

Good luck! jc

[Erika]

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902 1/23/2003 5:30:40 PM 1/24/2003 Perry Burney paburney@bellsouth.net Tachometer malfunction I have a 89 classic with a 8V92. My tach malfunctioned, jumped a little and just went to zero. I've had experience with speedometers and oil pressure guages, but not tachs. Where do I start?!

[Erika]

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903 1/23/2003 5:32:52 PM 1/24/2003 Perry Burney paburney@bellsouth.net 903 Cummins Engines I had an 84 with a 903. It was 350 hp, no leaks on it, good power, only problem, it is a smoker. On start up, look out!

[Erika]

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904 1/25/2003 2:25:16 PM 1/26/2003 Carl Hollmann (RV Tech) carl_hollmann@hotmail.com plasma tv in high altitude I deal with plasma TV's in some of our luxury coaches and am curios to know what the problems you have come across. Carl Hollmann RV technician, Kelowna British Columbia Ca.

[Erika]

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905 1/31/2003 9:28:41 PM 1/31/2003 Keith Walker keith@highdefinitions.com plasma tv in high altitude I sell & install plasma TV's in 6000 to 8500' altitudes. 1st & 2nd generation plasmas have a distinctive Buzz (sounds like a neon light) due to the gas between the glass panels being pressurized. 50% of current sets have no buzz due to plasma technology improvement. Current Pioneer Elite,Runco & NEC Plasma's are rated to 12,000'. The larger the panel , the bigger the buzz. I installed a retractable Sony 32" HDTV plasma in my coach and the buzz is faint. The plasma is coupled with a Tracstar HDTV In-Motion Satelitte, Sony HDTV Satellite Reciever through a VGA connnection and the 1080I Resolution is breathtaking. Large LCD (37") Panels do not have the buzz phenom.

[Erika]

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906 2/1/2003 10:30:58 AM 2/1/2003 Gary Carter gcarter@usinternet.com New Paint for a 1995 Newell We recently aquired a '93 that was painted last summer by Creative Coach in Lakeland FL. It looks alike a million bucks and most folks think it is a brand new coach.

BUT be prepared to spend some money. Probably at least $25K

Good luck

[Erika]

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907 2/2/2003 11:57:59 AM 2/2/2003 Norah Brennan nbnora@cs.com 1990 Newell 42 foot Coach for sale Norah Brennan
4280 Truckee River Trail
Reno, NV 89523
$165,000. Paint job was $22,000.
Coach located in Las Vegas Outdoor Resorts, also will offer a few months free rent at ORA in Las Vegas with coach purchase or can purchase lot with improvements.

[Erika]

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909 2/7/2003 9:45:36 PM 2/7/2003 J Clark jvclark02@cs.com Tachometer malfunction I apologize for the slow response, but I was attending the Newell rally in Palm Springs. The food and entertainment was fantastic, and Karl and Alice (owners of Newell Coach) were very gracious. Now, to your question, I lost the tach on my '79 Newell (Cummins) twice. The first time was a loose connection and the second time was the sending unit. The most common source of tach failure in descending order are; loose/corroded connection, broken wires, failed sending unit, bad gauge and broken drive shaft. I am not a devotee of remove and replace, nor do I enjoy yoga-under-the-dash or low crawling in the mud. In your front and rear terminal compartments are ?tach? wires (position #16, #6 & #7 on mine). I would first clean and check the connections. Next, place your trusty voltmeter in the ohms position, and put the red lead on one rear terminal (#6 or #7 ?) and ground the other lead. Record the ohms and volt readings on both terminals. Start the engine, you should see a significant increase in resistance (Ohms) and a small increase in volts (10ths) on one of the terminals. If not, stick a brew in the freezer, put on the coveralls and knee-pads, and start tracking the wires down to locate the engine sending unit. There are several places it can be on an 8V92 (blower, camshaft, or alternator driven) and I have yet to check what output Newell Coach is using. Clean and re-attach the connection at the sending unit and try the tach one more time. If a no go, you might free the moths from your billfold (in my case anyway) and order a new sending unit, or remove, inspect and repair everything as needed. Good luck!- jc

[Erika]

Tidbit- Are all you ?
"classic 8v92" folks making sure that your fan pulley and steering shaft zerk fittings get one or two squirts of grease each year? I doubt if most lube shops know they exist.

[Erika]

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910 2/8/2003 10:10:20 AM 2/17/2003 H Gumbs Execrver@aol.com Storage underneath compared to a Liberty Coach How is the storage space under the coach compared to a Liberty Coach(which has virtually none)?

[Erika]

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911 2/13/2003 1:49:44 PM 2/17/2003 DUKE HALTOM VPDUKE@MSN.COM the very first newell coach I THINK THAT I MAY OWN THE FIRST NEWELL COACH SOLD AFTER THE PURCHASE OF THE STREAMLINE CORP. BY MR. NEWELL, IN 1967.. THERE IS EVIDENCE OF THE STREAMLINE LOGO UNDERNIETH THE NEWELL LOGO ON THE FRONT OF MY COACH...WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS LEFT OVER STOCK OF THE 1967 STREAMLINE MOTORHOME... ANY HELP IN VERIFIING THIS WOULD BE APPRECIATED...MY EMAIL IS VPDUKE@MSN.COM THE VIN # OF MY NEWELL IS 5084 THANK YOU.........

[Erika]

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913 2/14/2003 11:19:51 am 2/17/2003 duke haltom vpduke@msn.com can not find tires please tell me where i can find tires for my 1967 newell with 16.5 rims the tires on it now are 12-16.5 thank you....duke

[Erika]

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915 2/19/2003 9:17:13 PM 2/24/2003 J Clark jvclark02@cs.com CAN NOT FIND TIRES Hi Duke-
Goodyear still makes the 12-16.5 called the Custom HiMiler SS. Contact Kris of Goodyear at kris_fettig@goodyear.com for your nearest dealer or contact Miller Tire (memiller@bright.net) at 800-621-1955, they sell a 12-16.5 for $135 and will ship anywhere. Good luck, jc

[Erika]

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916 2/20/2003 11:32:19 PM 2/24/2003 J Clark jvclark02@cs.com Storage underneath compared to a Liberty Coach That's a tough question. Newell Coach has never built two coaches exactly the same, so I was curious as to how they could answer your question. Every coach is custom built from the ground up for the buyer, so storage space will vary based on length, options, and number of axles. The best I can do is give you the open storage space I have on my 40' 102 with a tag axle and roof airs: one-42Wx30Hx100D; one-23Wx30Hx100D; two-22Wx30Hx28D, one-30Wx30Hx28D. jc

[Erika]

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917 2/24/2003 7:01:46 PM 2/24/2003 jeff dranreb@lowcountry.com serious chit chat COULD ANYONE TELL ME, WHAT IS THE LONGEST TRAILER LENGTH THEY EVER TOW WITH THEIR COACH LEGALLY OR WHAT IS THE STANDARD FOR 45'COACH.[RACE CAR TRAILER] THANKS

[Erika]

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918 2/25/2003 12:25:53 PM 2/26/2003 Scott Peatross slpeatross@aol.com serious chit chat Well, California has a maximum overall combined length of 65 feet.

[Erika]

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919 2/25/2003 5:19:16 PM 2/27/2003 Bill Burch bmburch@swbell.net serious chit chat I tow a 22' trailer behind my 45' coach which puts me at the legal limit, 70', for most states. I have a friend towing a 30 footer and to date, he has not had any problem with being overlength. I would be afraid be over length and become involved in an accident. The legal length limits are published in the front sections of most road atlases.

[Erika]

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921 2/27/2003 1:20:39 PM 2/27/2003 Marc Hobbie lbrendel01@yahoo.com Interested in Purchasing Newell 1982 38' with 6V92 turbo. Coach has 150k miles, Allision 5 speed auto. Bus exterior has been stripped and is ready for paint. Does anyone have any idea what this coach is worth? I am looking at purchasing it from an on-line seller. Given the above information, is there anything undesireable about this coach? Does anyone have anything similar that they are selling? Let me know! Thanks! I am interested in becoming a Newell owner.

[Neweller]

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922 2/27/2003 7:56:53 PM 3/4/2003 Scott P. slpeatross@aol.com Interested in Purchasing Newell I would put the value on an '82 in excellent condition in the low $50K range. It does have the 6V92 & 5 speed which is a desireable drivetrain. I don't know if the 8V92 was offered in '82, but that would be even more desireable, but the 6V is much better than some of the obsolete Cummins engines also offered in that era. If in less than excellent condition, use caution because refurbishment gets expensive quickly. Factory quality paint can cost $10,000-$25,000. Excellent condition also means updated interior. Neutral colors using quality fabrics or leather is important, also expensive. If in original, yet dated condition, you may pick it up much cheaper. Bottom line is don't spend all your money to aquire the coach. Keep plenty in reserve for the many things you may discover it needs after you buy it. Good luck!