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Old 06-25-2013, 02:21 AM   #11
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Guys I will tell you this.. I've only had my coaches to Newell 3 times.. Twice with Ron skeens 96 and once with my 99.. I had air probs with my 96.. And while I don't know the technical issues they were able to fix them.. When you check out whom ever is your service writer will go though stuff with you.. Even go ask before then and see if they can help..

I can tell you 2 tricks we did with my 96 to help cool the coach before we got everything working and I'm not sure why it works but it helped.. Your airs dissipate the hot air underneath the coach correct? Put a fan blowing air underneath where the hot air comes out.. It made a significant difference especially if we were on concrete.. Also I know it's not the best answer but it did help
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:48 AM   #12
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New 12v Coleman Mack Thermostat with hi/lo fan and auto cool installed here at Newell last year. Only heat I have is aqua hot. Dwight checked thermostat at both ends and works perfect.

Pulled out my RVAC Service Manual. Specs are crystal clear. 95 deg outside air / return air 70 deg / discharge air 55 deg. 14 amps. Mine is 84 deg outside air / return air 70 deg / discharge air 67 deg. That is 12 degrees off from spec, not counting its 11 degrees cooler than spec test. I feel this issue is with the freon charging. They just dont know what they are doing or how to get it right.

I will talk again tomorrow morning to Tommy my service advisor, then probably to the shop manager. There is no reason why this A/C should not work within the specs. I have them in black and white, all parts on a/c are brand new. They have no excuses. I will not pay $110 an hour for someone to "experiment" vaccuming it down and putting freon back in. Thats why I drove all the way here. For professionals to fix it right the first time. I will make sure to fill every one in about my experience. These a/c's were installed from 94-04 and I am sure there are many out there.

Thanks everyone for quick response and phone calls.

I would love to hear from other owners whos SCS basement a/c's work well. Newell tells me they do not exist.
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:02 AM   #13
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How about a totally different direction? Get out your IR temperature gun and check all of your ducting to make sure there are no leaks into your basement bays. May be a longshot but if there is a leak then not all of the cooled air is getting into the coach.Good luck.
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For what it's worth, our '92 has original basement a/c's. 3 units, inside of coach with levelor's & drapes closed was 85 degrees outside in Phx with afternoon sun on drivers side of coach temp was 118 degrees. 85 was inside temp not discharge air temp. Dwight & Robert were techs that serviced our a/c's at Newell.
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Latest this morning is that Newell is saying the RVAC SCS specs are wrong and never worked even when new within specs. I find this very hard to believe! Can you imagine paying $800k for a 2000 Newell and the a/c only blows 6 degrees cooler than return???? They said no one has cool 16+ degree difference, and that its impossible. I find that hard to believe......

My front single unit has a 21 degree difference!!!! I drove all the way here, with promises that if I replace every part brand new, it would run within specs. We are at 1/3 of specs and I am paying $110 an hour for them to "experiment" for two days. No leaks as we are taking air temp at unit discharge, not inside air vent.
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Any chance there is internal debris in the evaporator coils?
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I say if Newell can't fix your issue your service should be free!
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Latest this morning is that Newell is saying the RVAC SCS specs are wrong and never worked even when new within specs. I find this very hard to believe! Can you imagine paying $800k for a 2000 Newell and the a/c only blows 6 degrees cooler than return???? They said no one has cool 16+ degree difference, and that its impossible. I find that hard to believe......

My front single unit has a 21 degree difference!!!! I drove all the way here, with promises that if I replace every part brand new, it would run within specs. We are at 1/3 of specs and I am paying $110 an hour for them to "experiment" for two days. No leaks as we are taking air temp at unit discharge, not inside air vent.
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It's either DIY or DAP. It's an owners personal preference and choice.
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Dave is awful quite all of a sudden, hopefully he didn't collapse from heat exhaustion. I feel more for Marjorie having to deal with the ruckus in all this. Dave, you didn't head down to Foretravel by chance did you?
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