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Old 11-08-2008, 01:13 AM   #21
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OK, Michael, I set it at 2k and got a reading of 1.103......that's way under 10 ohms, so I guess it's OK, right?
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Old 11-08-2008, 02:22 AM   #22
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Touch the two leads of the VOM together and see what you get. I am getting .1 - .2 ohm additional resistance across the fuse as I do just touching the leads together. The 10 ohms

If in doubt, changing the fuse is a cheap effort. With that said, I suspect that you may have a problem in the circuit board or the ballast.
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Old 05-11-2009, 12:48 AM   #23
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has anyone tried to fit an led into the space after removing the ballast but using the h
ousing and orig cover?

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Old 05-11-2009, 02:51 PM   #24
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I believe Steven Ward ('82 Newell) has done what you are proposing. Maybe he will chime in and tell you what and how he did it, or you can send him a personal message through this forum.
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:56 PM   #25
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i love to hear about this as well. i have a ton of those fixtures in my coach.

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Old 05-12-2009, 12:39 AM   #26
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So far I have only retrofitted the smaller wattage Florescent Fixtures. I found that I was able to get a similar Light out of two Electropod Strips that I purchased from West Marine using their #9361189 ;
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/298765/377%20710%201615/712//Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/10/0?N=377%20710%201615&Ne=712&Ntt=&Ntx=mode%20matcha llpartial&page=CategoryDisplayLevel1&Nr=AND(Record %20Type:PRODUCT,Store:WESTMARINE)&isLTokenURL=true &storeNum=5002&subdeptNum=9&classNum=13045#
and two of a proprietary LED #9265901 ;
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...classNum=13045

I am very happy with the results so far and have completed 3 fixtures above the sink in the Galley and 2 fixtures above the Chairs in the Saloon. I will be doing the Larger Florescent Fixtures as soon as one of them goes out. I expect to use four of the strips but am not sure if I will need to use any of the proprietary pieces.
Looks like it is about $60.00 to convert one fixture unless you can find someone with a discount at West (being in Iowa you are too far away for us to go to the store)./
The Power Use is drastically Lower! I expect to convert all of the Fixtures over time.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:59 AM   #27
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I've seen the fixtures Steve has converted, and the light output is comparable to the florescent, but a nicer, warmer quality than the harsh, glaring quality of florescents.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:13 AM   #28
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i have changed my flourescents a few times to get the color of light that i like.

i like the whiteish color and not the yellow or blueish.

i love led lighting but not enough to spend a thousand bucks on it. i have a LOT of fixtures in my coach.

i would love to see them though. as you may know i changed all of my external lighting to LED.

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Old 05-12-2009, 04:52 AM   #29
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Come on Tom, it's only money................
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:23 AM   #30
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you are right. i cant decide between bidding on tuga's beautiful rig or the bergundy one to complement my own on ebay that is a buy it now for 800k.

or i could replace the lights in mine.

or i could just use it the way it is and love it.

oh yea, i think the latter is it.

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Old 05-12-2009, 01:56 PM   #31
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When we got our Coach there were allot of Florescent Lights that were not functional. The cost of the retrofit was only slightly more than the cost of repair in my case. So far I have only retrofitted the smaller 8 watt light fixtures and all were non-functional prior to the retrofit. I do plan on retrofitting any Florescent fixture that goes bad although I have no plans to this to a working Fixture right at this time
These LED Strips have a pure White Color but are available in a blueish and red colors. As I said earlier there is a drastic reduction in Power use between the original Florescent and same fixture with the LED retrofit. I would think that the LED Strips would produce enough light without the end pieces.
My Goal with this retrofit was to reduce the power needed to live comfortably and yet use only the Solar Panels to keep up with the demand, so far so good. Solar Panels are not cheap and the space available for their installation is limited.
We move back aboard the Coach tomorrow in preparation of the River Run. If I get bored or just need something to do I will take a picture of a Fixture with the LED retrofit.
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:43 PM   #32
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Steve....are you going to be down in Hemet?
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:50 PM   #33
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yes I should be there tomorrow by noon or so and we leave Friday morning.
Did you want that door latch?
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:02 PM   #34
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Yes.....I think I can come down Thursday morning....are you going to be at Golden Palms?
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:46 PM   #35
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yes. I stopped by the Golden Palms yesterday to make the arrangements and it felt like home. I should be at the same Space, #946. #946 is close enough to the Pool and yet far enough away to make it quiet and the Dogs know where to relieve themselves.
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Old 10-17-2009, 06:27 PM   #36
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I had some of the same lights not working in our coach. This is what I ordered and they work great.

http://store.qkits.com/moreinfo.cfm/MXA051

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Old 10-18-2009, 03:05 PM   #37
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Hey Jeff...that is exactly what I have been looking for. When I bought my coach the prior owner had several complete flourescent fixtures in one of the bays. So far I have just replaced the bad units by removing the entire assembly and using one of the backups, but now I am out, so I can buy these modules and rebuild the bad ones....I think I've got four now. Very reasonable price, too!
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chockwald,

I am glad you found the link useful. Just a word of caution though, the circuit boards are about an 1/8" wider then the originals. What I did was, I placed the new board where the old one was, marked the lip of the fixture just a little wider then the board. I took a pair of snips and cut the 1/4" lip, then just slowly bent this lip inward and down. The board then fits flush against the side of the fixture. The 1/8" extra height did not effect putting the cover and lens back on, it fit just fine. The old Circut board also had a piece of insalating material between the board and the fixture. These were glued onto my old boards and I could not remove them with them tearing. I had some thin sheets of gasket material and just cut the size I needed to fit the new boards. A couple small dabs of liquid nails between the board and gasket and between the gasket and the fixture worked out great. I took the old boards to a friend to see if it would be cheaper to just replace some of the components that had burned up or by the new boards. 3 seconds later he looked at me and said BUY the new boards. Hope this helps a little, I did not want to mislead anyone into thinking they were a direct replacement and fit just like the old boards. I contacted Newell before ordering these boards, they do have the boards, but they are $45.00 a piece. I checked all my lights in the coach and everyone of them had the same resistor that had been getting extremely hot or had already smoked. Since I wanted to replace all of them, I thought I would try the $11.00 boards first.
THESE NEW BOARDS do not a fuse on the board. I just added an inline fuse when I wired them back in.

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Old 10-18-2009, 05:20 PM   #39
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Jeff...thank you much for tutorial. Will definitely refer to it when I start rebuilding my four bad fixtures!
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:42 PM   #40
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Clarke I replaced a couple fluorescence lights with new ballast in the front of the coach with a more efficient fixture and bulb T8. There is an awful lot to know about florescent lighting. Not all fixtures can recieve just any bulb as the following web site will address.
http://www.servicelighting.com/libra...e_lighting.cfm

I also replaced a bulb such as the one you are having an issue with over my sink area with a LED light strip which works very nice, but I have to admit that LED's have a shorter lighting distance and don't think it would be enough for the bathroom area. For that i believe that richard gave you a good site for replacement ballast. It would be beneficial for folks to get a good understanding of florescence lighting because they are the reason for many fires when not used and cared for properly.

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