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Old 03-21-2015, 01:10 PM   #11
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Likewise, Dan, should you have a question, any question at all, please feel free to keep it to yourself.

Ahem, I mean, feel free to ask anything, and if I don't know the answer, rest assured that I will make up something plausable.

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Old 03-22-2015, 02:54 AM   #12
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Thank you guys. If anything comes up, you can rest assured I will call on the troops of the forum!

Thanks again,

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Old 03-30-2015, 10:59 AM   #13
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I've always said "Take an old house and an old truck and put them together and you have an old motorhome....Maintenance will be required." Generally appliances and components have a 20 year life span. After restifying two Newells I continue to be impressed with the basic structure and feel that it is more worthy of continual upgrades than most less expensive motorhomes. I could go into detail about 7 ply 3/4" plywood, heavy duty rivets holding inner structures in place, almost no glue or staples, robust wiring...all things most people don't even see that is done very well. The other difference is that most mass produced motorhomes are built to a "price". For the most part a Newell is built to a "standard" with price a secondary consideration.
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Old 04-26-2015, 08:50 PM   #14
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I happen to be in a similar situation to Dan. I started with a Safari Ivory and learned to hate it rather quickly. The owned two new American Eagles back in the mid - late 90's. Full timed for near 3 years back then.
Had an excellent experience with the Amer. Coach group and always took the rigs to the factory for all service and just general checkups.

Now, we are putting the house up for sale this week and going to take off to full time for 3-5 years while I still can!

Pattern will be to be staying in most locations for 2-6+ weeks and spending time getting to know each town and it's personality profile. Expect when we finally get tired of traveling we'll return to where we liked the best and give it a final test before buying a home.

Now, I've done the Eagle twice and at this point I would like to try something new. Like many, I've lusted for a Newell since the first one I toured years ago. At this point, I can afford to comfortable pay cash for a 2001-2003.

Like Dan, I'm a perfectionist - actually my wife and friends say I'm the Poster Child for the North American Anal Retentive. Thus, with a personality profile like that and lacking the genetic structure to have any patience with chronic problems ........ you get the picture?

Now, let's say I pass on passion and go back to a used Eagle. And let's say Day buys a same year, 2002, Newell.

First, is it safe to assume that both Dan and I will have a like number of problems over the next 4 years of ownership?

Second, if we have the same number, and ever say the same components fail, will the cost to maintain the Newell be dramatically greater than the Eagle?

In short, cost of entry is only the beginning point in the equation. I'd like to evaluate the cost of ownership.

Feedback is appreciated.

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Old 04-27-2015, 12:34 AM   #15
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You really can't compare a Fleetwood to a Newell. There are no Fleetwoods that are designed for 1 million plus miles, all Newells are. They may look similar on a spec sheet as far as options, but there is no similarity in build quality. Consider the difference between a Chrysler and S Class Mercedes, yes, they both have power steering, heater, A/C, radio, etc... but the driving experience isn't comparable. Do yourself a favor and opt for quality.
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Old 04-27-2015, 01:36 AM   #16
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Jack,
The answer to your first question is no. My opinion is that the coach that has been maintained will have a lower cost of ownership than a neglected coach. Therefore the key in controlling your cost of ownership is to buy a coach that has received proper maintenance.

I can only answer question two with my experience. I owned a Country Coach for 8 yrs & drove it 120,000 miles. I have owned my Newell for 5 yrs & driven it 60,000 miles. I have not noticed an increase in cost between the two except tires & batteries. More & bigger tires. More batteries.

Concentrate on finding a well maintained coach, no matter the brand, and your cost of ownership will be lower.

Now let's talk about what is the highest part of cost of ownership. It is NOT parts & labor-----it is depreciation!
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Old 04-27-2015, 01:42 AM   #17
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I realize this question has not been part of this discussion but safety was a consideration to me when I was shopping. I know of one Newell that ended up on it's side after being struck by a tornado while moving. After it was righted and fluids checked although it had broken windows etc. it was drivable. I have seen many fiberglass RV's that are split open and totally demolished after lesser impacts.
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Steve, that was informative. I had expected to see a dramatic increase in the cost of operating the Newell verse a "standard" coach. On finding a well maintained coach, I'm finding it difficult to locate one where the owner kept any records to prove then at least had the oil changed. I'm not one that does well on "trust me" comments that it was done.

Hoosier Daddy -
I agree with the safety comment BUT if I was really focused on it I'd be buying a Dynamax, assuming I'm willing to over look the poor Dynamax reliability ratings on the living quarters. Truck drivers have a saying about "flat nose" trucks: "You'll be the first one at the scene of the accident". They prefer "long nose rigs" for safety.
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:51 PM   #19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy View Post
I realize this question has not been part of this discussion but safety was a consideration to me when I was shopping. I know of one Newell that ended up on it's side after being struck by a tornado while moving. After it was righted and fluids checked although it had broken windows etc. it was drivable. I have seen many fiberglass RV's that are split open and totally demolished after lesser impacts.
I came across this unit when looking for a donor coach, good illistration of what HoosierDaddy is talking about.
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I figure there is a higher probability of being confronted with a head on collision as compared to a tornato. Then again, Fate has had Her fun with me before!
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