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folivier
09-24-2012, 02:03 PM
Anybody looking for a bargain?

2002 Newell Custom Coach 4 Slider For Sale In Knoxville TN 37931 - Karns Motor Company (http://www.karnsmotor.com/2002_Newell_Custom%20Coach_Knoxville_TN_153337422. veh)

Neweller
09-24-2012, 04:14 PM
I'm thinking I may have seen this coach quite a while back, like 8 years ago at a Nascar event and I'm trying to pin down the driver/owner.Not sure if it was Waltrip? anybody know?

I would have to believe it is another quad slide priced really right. Personally I would throw in some brighter colors as there is a little too much dark color. And it has the 60 series!:thumbup:Which I prefer.

folivier
09-24-2012, 04:27 PM
Priced right???? That's the lowest price I've seen on one of that vintage. But who knows the condition without a close look. Just thought someone might be interested. If my house would ever sell............

afrench45
09-24-2012, 04:53 PM
I think that is a steal for that coach! My guess is you could put $30k into it to have everything working in proper order and I think you'd still be in it cheap

Neweller
09-24-2012, 05:36 PM
Forrest, it's definitely priced right and Andrew is right about what 30k could do for it. Of course if the mechanicals are up to snuff. The wife and I could jazz it up for a little change.

Andrew, you have said you could go for a Quad? Unless the miles are too high for you? I may have to check it out myself.

BOB & ANN YOUNG
09-24-2012, 06:36 PM
I have read on here where you have mentioned how prices are all over the place and that is exactly what we are seeing. Why do suppose that is?

afrench45
09-24-2012, 07:49 PM
Miles are not too High for me.... I've got 190k! Decide against a quad and opted for a new boat! The coach could be lightened up... By booth is a dark purple now and I'm fixing to recover it with bright red, I think that'll make a difference. We also just have lights on and windows up a bunch.

if anyone is interested though, I think a call to the factory would be beneficial. I'm sure they know the coach and may know if its gonna need more than cosmetic work (ie black mirror painted to match)

FJGuard
09-24-2012, 08:01 PM
Nice coach but it's a little dark. Needs some color!

Neweller
09-24-2012, 08:57 PM
My wife says she could doll it up beyond belief for a small investment and that when she was done would look better than half of the ones we have seen at twice the price. She has already designed it in her head with total visualization lol. But its good though. I can tell she misses being a designer.

Gone Busing
09-24-2012, 11:20 PM
Can't imagine this one sticking around the lot long. I realize the economy is a turd but this seems like an extremely good deal.

folivier, thx for posting.

Cheri Smith
09-25-2012, 03:34 AM
Out of our price range but it sure is a pretty coach! It just needs a little TLC!

Gax
09-25-2012, 08:28 AM
Bob with the economy in the crapper like most of us realize makes for great prices on used luxury items. I have to believe pricing will continue to plummet as only the real wealthy or celebrities are buying the brand new newells and with financing pretty much nil we have to scrape up our last pennies to rip a great deal on one of these bad to the bone coaches. Just like in the real estate market.

Want to go havies on this one???

darstlawfirm
10-02-2012, 05:43 AM
FWD: I just wanted to give you a heads up on the 2002 quad slide newell in knoxville Tn. If you could pass this on to the membership, it might save members from a long trip and wasted travel money like i just spent. I am familliar with newells as my father owned a 2004. I drove there last nite and met with Rob at dealership this morning. Spent the day there. This newell is with out a doubt, the worst shape motorhome i have ever seen of any type. There is delamination that you can put your fingers through on all four slides upper and lower skins. All 4 slide seals are not funtional. Two seals are completly MISSING, and torn off. Coach has not been aired up in a year or plugged in, so you can imagine the flood damage. Water pouring in everywhere Black mold on all interior walls creeping up three feet or more by drivers seat, under dining table, in bedroom, and on all floors, under all wallpaper. Wood rot on most walls and under all slide floors. Water intrusion in celiing from gen stack leak. ALL Batteries toast. Tires 2005 and bad dry rot. Body damage and missing trim EVERYWHERE. One invertor fried, dash a/c non funtional and they even took the belt off the engine. Oil leak. Hyd fluid leak from hwh. Windshield cracked in multiple places, aqua hot non functional, keyless broken, cannot access two bays, front ac not working, ceiling cracks, and so on and so on. I think you get the idea. I called newell for 30 min and talked. They say $120k and 3 months just for water damage, delam, wood rot, new slide seals, not to mention the other 200 things wrong who knows how much more $$$$$. The buy it now is $148k. Its not worth $20k and I didnt offer anything. The coach is basically totaled, more to fix than its worth. It made me sick to see how that beautiful coach was treated!! The driver who occupied it was Tomas Scheckter / panther racing.......Shame!!

Just wanted to give you all a heads up.....

RussWhite
10-02-2012, 05:58 AM
What a shame! I summer near Knoxville and had wondered if anyone on the forum would have a look. Thanks for sharing your observations. There may be some price at which someone would tow/drive it away, but I don't think I would bother unless I wanted a project for a year or so. It will be interesting to see what happens to it.

86loco
10-02-2012, 03:14 PM
This probably got a handful of folks thinking a great deal was on the horizon. Now it would not be good if several people travel hundreds of miles to find out the same.

Gax
10-03-2012, 02:40 AM
Ok, I had a family member go look it over as well and the report is that it would take a lot of time and money to get this Newell back into primo shape. The estimate I got was in the $60-80 thousand mark for parts and probably 1500-2000 man hours. It does have a lot of damage from what they thought was rain damage, floor damage, electrical, plumbing, slide electronics and motors, headliner, mold clean-up, tires, air systems, brakes, suspension work, body and paint issues, new upholstery, cabinet and wall delamination, windshield, heating and A/C systems, leveling system issues, engine??, Trans??, diff??, safety issues??, it's a lot rougher than the pictures tell. You can see the mold above the drivers seat. The cushion, drapes all ruined from mold. Who know how much wall and underfloor damage there is. I'm told it would be best to gut the interior and replace all damaged areas including electrical, install and repair everything in phases.

Pretty darn scary. I think it is worth more than Darst is suggeting, but not a whole more. It probably should go to salvage and be used for parts. Hope this helps save someone wasted airfare etc.

Sorry to be a bearer of more bad news. Cheers!

Gone Busing
10-03-2012, 03:31 AM
OMG! That is so devastating to hear.

BOB & ANN YOUNG
10-03-2012, 05:20 AM
Well it makes sense to us now why this one is priced so cheap. We are studying the prices and this one was the cheapest 2002 we have ran across so far. How would someone actually value such damaged Newell like this I have to ask? It sounds truly like salvage to us...

Could it ever be worth a lot again with it being so tainted and now so documented one the internet?

folivier
10-03-2012, 01:15 PM
I feel bad now for posting this one. But without seeing in person, or having someone look over a coach, how is someone to know? I emailed the dealer asking a few general questions and only got a response saying it was still available.
I guess this is like the old saying "if it sounds too good to be true...."

Gone Busing
10-03-2012, 04:08 PM
Forest & Cindy by running across and posting about this coach and if anything you will have saved more people from a dealer ripping them off. We were interested but the dealers response like you stated concurred with ours. We planned making the trip but were reluctant too. With the investigation of others, somebody has been sparred from a bad purchase.

I say cheers to you for the post and saving some possible hides from a wasted trip. Thank you!

folivier
10-03-2012, 04:35 PM
When we found our coach we flew to Florida to see it. It was from a dealer and I had the manager walk around the coach answering my questions. That took about an hour. We flew up and decided to buy it. BUT if we had someone else look at it they would probably have picked up on the damage to the floor in the bathroom and a few other things we missed. I think we would have still bought it but would have probably been able to get the price down enough to cover those repairs. The dealer was considered to be reputable, had changed the floor in the kitchen so they should have seen water damage, so I trusted them when I shouldn't have.
I would be more than happy to check out a coach for someone that is truly interested if it's nearby to where I am. I won't do an "inspection" since I don't feel that I'm qualified to do a complete inspection but feel that I could spot obvious problems.
Another very valuable resource is to get the VIN and call Newell. I did and they had some information and were able to put me in contact with 2 previous owners.

Neweller
10-03-2012, 06:15 PM
:dito:Forest your deal is similar to mine. I was burned by a reputable dealer out of Texas. I bought my first Newell off ebay and wish I would have backed out and bought another one instead for three times the price in California, I blew the amount of difference anyway.

The dealer gave me a song and dance over the phone, he asked me during our phone conversations what I thought it was going to bring on the ebay auction and I gave my opinion like an idiot. This dealer ate me up and spit me out.

After doing a little research, I believe it was a shill. To make a long story short, I won the auction, sent my deposit and waited for the call to pick it up. He talked me into waiting on picking it up so they could give it the once over, change the fluids, seal the roof etc. That got strung out for two weeks. He also offered to take a Harley in trade I going to sell anyway, which made it seem like a better deal.

After hauling the Harley down to Texas from California with my cashier’s check in hand, upon arrival I was greeted very graciously and got a tour of the old girl and it was love at first site, in fact after looking prior at so many bus conversions and unfinished projects this classic was so cool and thinking it was a third of the newer one out in Cali.

It was so cool and impressive that I got overtaken by many issues I later had to address during future ownership. They had thrown some boards in the basement from when someone had done the upgrade to the bedroom to only cover the rotten basement floor area. They made the wall damage sound like it was not as big as it was. Anyway you should get the picture.

Hey, they were so nice to take my wife down to JC Penny's to get new bedding, throw in a new water pump. I thought to myself these guys are pretty nice. I just had some good Texas smoke blown up you know where. I don't trust 98% of dealers selling anything that has wheels under it. Even with Carfax, it hasn't changed; they just use that one to their own favor. I have family that has owned over 30 New and used car dealerships and decided a while ago, I wanted no more part of it.

Now a point here even if you can do the work yourself is to inspect, inspect and inspect before making a large purchase. Sometimes we takes gambles knowing we may or may not be getting in over our heads and that may be a different situation, knowing we are getting a killer deal and will have some real work to do. It's ok to save money by doing sweat equity, I've done it on a few properties and vehicles etc., but it is much better knowing that it was your choice in the matter and not because you just got ripped off.

Dave-n-Marjorie
01-15-2014, 12:17 AM
Looks like this coach is back on ebay!!! I wonder how much they spent to get it going, or did they just hide stuff??? I remember this coach and read darstlawfirms write up on page two. I wonder how many people looking at this thing have no clue???

larryweikart
01-17-2014, 04:49 PM
I bought our coach from Newell and knew I was paying a premium price for the coach when compared to others listed for sale by owner or dealer, but the bumper to bumper warranty was well worth the extra $$$$. Even if you purchase an extended warranty it isn't the same as a bumper to bumper and Newell can fix things that a dealer will have difficulty fixing if they can at all. Of course you have to be in the market for a newer then 10 yr old coach.