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1331 6/17/2004 6:04:26 AM 6/20/2004 Doug86 Sharing Info with classic owners! I have an 86 that I have been thinking of putting Pergo type flooring in. I used it to build a bar recently and like the way that turned out. I also want to get rid of the twin bed setup and go to a queen, some other minor interior updates also. Still need to get setup so that I can run all 3 A/C's. The main breaker keeps tripping if I use the center air.

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1332 6/17/2004 6:07:37 AM 6/20/2004 Doug86 central air 87 newell Carl, did you install the roof airs, or have them installed. The reason I ask is were you able to route the wiring without having to disturb the ceiling treatments?

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1333 6/17/2004 6:49:53 AM 6/20/2004 Doug86 84 WINDSHIELDS Is there an exterior sunshade available for the 102 wide 86 newell with the 6" center section?

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Doug

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1334 6/20/2004 9:37:24 AM 6/20/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com 84 WINDSHIELDS Some vendors have the patterns for various Newell models, but most also make custom windshield sunscreen shades if they do not already have the patterns.

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1335 6/20/2004 9:40:51 AM 6/20/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com King to twin bed rig We will inquire with our support staff about adding the capability to include photos in posts to our board.

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1336 6/20/2004 3:11:36 PM 6/20/2004 James Tuckness JSTuckit@aol.com Brake Light Switch Hydraulic stop light switch is located on top of the vacume booster. Booster is located on drivers side behind front wheel. I rebult the brake system on my 71 30'last fall. Your coach may have same equipment. 417-866-0261

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1337 6/21/2004 3:05:28 PM 6/22/2004 gary smith garysmith56@hotmail.com roof deck I am looking for info on who installs observation decks on Prevost.

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1342 6/23/2004 8:00:56 PM 6/25/2004 bob prell azrlp@msn.com monitor mou ted in dash when i order a new coach from you can you mount three 6" monitors in the dash for side and rear viewing? i have them in my london aire. tnx

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1343 6/24/2004 6:04:43 AM 6/25/2004 Ray Ireton riflyer@aol.com Corrision protection of Aluminum If you want to know how to clean corrision on the aluminum its very easy and won't show up again. Comtact me at the above e-mail. I am and aircraft mechanic and deal with this all the time.

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Ray Ireton
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1344 6/24/2004 6:12:00 AM 6/25/2004 Ray Ireton riflyer@aol.com New Tires As the wife and I are getting ready to by a new coach and I have experience as an aircraft Mechanic I am going to fill my tires with Nitrogen. This is common in the aircraft industrie. Reason's Nitrogen is inert doesn't oxodize rubber. Does not heat like air. Does not expand like air. It is used in all high weight high speed aircraft tires. I feel its the only way to the tires from decaying.

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Ray Ireton
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1345 6/25/2004 5:06:59 AM 6/25/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com monitor mou ted in dash We have previously installed special order side cameras (in addition to the standard rear camera) on new coaches. In these installations, a single monitor switches automatically to the appropriate side veiw when the directional signal is used, or the driver can manually select any camera to display on the monitor using a switch. At Newell, we accomodate a great many custom features on customer request. An in-dash installation of three monitors could be done, although it would probably involve compromises in terms of location, with issues including visability of the monitors and the need to find alternative locations for other displaced components requiring resolution. We look forward to your order.

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1346 6/26/2004 1:49:54 AM 6/26/2004 Paul Rose SportingClays1@aol.com Switch 4-speed to 6speed trans. I'm looking to know if you can and how much it will cost to switch a 4-speed Allison to a 6-speed Allison in a 1980 Newell with a 3208 Cat. I also need to know what the tow rating is on a 3208 Cat with each trans. listed. Thank you in advance. Paul Rose

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1347 6/26/2004 6:18:00 AM 6/26/2004 James Tuckness JSTuckit@aol.com Corrision protection of Aluminum I have a 71 with aluminum corrision along the bottom edge of the coach. The steel rail and aluminum are rivited together with pits and very small holes from corrision. Thank you,
James Tuckness

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1348 6/26/2004 7:31:24 AM 6/26/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Switch 4-speed to 6speed trans. The 6-speed Allison World Transmission incorporates an electronic control module (computer) designed to interface with a modern diesel engine also equipped with electronic controls. Your 3208 Cat does not have electronic controls and therefore is not compatible with these new Allison transmissions. If your transmission is worn out or malfunctioning, we suggest you consider repair or overhaul by a qualified Allison facility, or replacing the transmission with a quality rebuilt non-electronic unit. The transmission capacity would not be the limiting factor for trailer towing. You should confirm and respect the capacity of the hitch. Many of the factory original hitches are rated at 5000 pounds, although upgrade hitches can be installed if desired. The limited power of the 3208 Cat engine would also be a consideration, as a heavy trailer would degrade the performance considerably, especially hill climbing,.

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1349 6/28/2004 3:23:05 PM 6/29/2004 Bill Moore my magiccarpet @aol.com 1160 v8 cat diesel Need help. We are looking at a 1974 Newell with an 1160 V8 Cat, diesel engine. Need to know at what rpm to run at 65 miles an hour. Will 1160 pull most hills at 45 to 50? Also will it go as fast as 70 miles an hour? Will it tow a 3000# car at 60 or 65?
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1350 6/28/2004 3:33:26 PM 6/29/2004 Bill Moore my magiccarpet @aol.com Sharing Info with classic owners! We are thinking of buying a 74 Newell. Is it normal that the coach has a bad bounce when the road conditons are bad? Does it bounce all the time?

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1351 6/28/2004 5:54:24 PM 6/29/2004 Palmer Webb jdw1700@hotmail.com 96 Newell windshield My question is about a replacement windshield for my coach. The driver's side has a small crack that I feel could "expand" with time. Any information as to what other vehicles this windshield would fit? What would be the most "cost effective" way to replace it?
Thanks, Palmer

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1352 6/29/2004 4:50:44 AM 6/29/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com 1160 v8 cat diesel Answers to all of the questions you ask will depend on a number of factors, including the size and weight of the coach (a heavy 40-foot coach does not perform like a light 33-foot coach), the axle ratio, and the condition of the engine. We suggest you arrange for a test drive to check out the performance first-hand.

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1352 6/29/2004 4:50:44 AM 6/29/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com 1160 v8 cat diesel Answers to all of the questions you ask will depend on a number of factors, including the size and weight of the coach (a heavy 40-foot coach does not perform like a light 33-foot coach), the axle ratio, and the condition of the engine. We suggest you arrange for a test drive to check out the performance first-hand.

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1353 6/29/2004 4:54:12 AM 6/29/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com 96 Newell windshield Newells 1990 model year and newer have windshields available from the Newell factory parts department. The replacement cost is not excessive. 1981 through 1989 models use windshields from the Chevrolet Astro 95 large truck, and they are available from any Chevrolet dealer. Contact the Newell factory parts department for windshields for 1980 and older Newells.

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1354 6/29/2004 5:01:38 AM 6/29/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Sharing Info with classic owners! It sounds like the coach you are looking at has worn shock absorbers. The coach should not "bounce" excessively. We recommend the shock absorbers be replaced.

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1356 6/30/2004 11:22:33 AM 6/30/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net Sharing Info with classic owners! My 1977 bounced rather badly with the Koni shocks set at their lowest setting and improved dramatically when adjusted to the 3rd setting. I just reset them to the number 4 setting and the ride is even better. This confirms the TeckTalk staff note just above in my mind. If your shocks can be adjusted see if they can be adjusted stiffer as mine were able to do. If not, get new ones.

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1357 7/1/2004 5:54:13 PM 7/1/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net Rear Suspension 1979 Newell 38' 2 axle. Servicing coach after Vc in Texas, and noticed right side drive axle slightly out of alignment (approximately 1 inch toward rear of coach).
Examined underneath and discovered one broken leaf in right rear spring. Also air bags slightly out of alignment. Looks like centering bolt through middle of leaf spring might have sheared/broken and slipped things back a bit. Still drives perfect and roads in Texas weren't that rough. Any experience or guidance appreciated before I begin repair.
Thanks in advance.

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1358 7/1/2004 6:03:17 PM 7/1/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net 12.5 Kohler Diesel Generator 1979 Newell 38'. Performing major service on Kohler Diesel genset - Perkins 4.108 engine - ser # ED22433U538032F.
Our book shows oil capacity of approx 4 1/2 US quarts, but that doesn't even show on the dipstick (which has been extended so can check oil without sliding out genset). Suspect genset has oversize oil pan. Appreciate comments and capacities. Don't want to overfill.
Thanks in advance.

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1359 7/1/2004 6:10:06 PM 7/2/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net 1979 Newell Bendix air brakes Performing major service in preparation for trip to Disneyworld and plan to have brakes checked out and adjusted. Would like to understand more about air brakes on our particular coach. Are they the S-Cam type? OR? They work well - but this would be good chance to upgrade if needed. Thanks in advance for comments.

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1361 7/4/2004 8:30:15 AM 7/4/2004 STEVE SHEPARD drshep1@bellsouth.net HYBRIDES AND HYDROGEN OR GREEN FUEL RVS A 55,000 pound Newell will perform a lot different with a hybird engine than a Toyota. The engine in the Newell is one of the most efficient engines made. The Detroit Diesel turbocharged engine is an engineering marvel and has flawless performance. The advantage of the diesel electric concept is the high efficiency multiplication of torque for the train engines. The Allison transmission is also an engineering marvel. It will be a long time before hydrogen will be flowing through pipelines. Every leak turns into a 5000 degree invisible flame, and it results in tremendous explosions. At the Stennis Space Center they have to purge the pipelines for 2 days with pure nitrogen before unloading the liquid hydrogen off the barges. Any oxygen left in the pipe is self-cleaning because after the explosion they have to replace the pipe line! With a hydrogen economy there is not enough natural gas to power the electic plants to decompose water into hydrogen and oxygen. In other words a hydrogen economy is a long way off despite what some of the "green" politicians say. Bio-fuel such as alcohol is a political issue and would be moot without government subsidies. How much diesel fuel does it take to grow and harvest enough corn to make a gallon of alcohol? A corn farm with an alcohol plant on it will be an energy sink, i.e., it will take a lot more energy to operate than it can produce.

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1362 7/4/2004 4:19:59 PM 7/4/2004 g j gregbusj@aol.com New Tires I operate an entertainer's coach, currently using Michelin XZAs on all axles. When new tires are needed, I put them on the steer axle, usually for a maximum of 50-60,000 miles. They are removed before any typical steer axle wear patterns start, and they are rotated back to the bogie or drive axle. Occasionally new tires are required for the drive axle out of this sequence, mounted as a new pair (never an old tire mated to a new tire). Bogie axle never gets new tires, due to the greater amount of scuffing they seem to endure. This formula has worked well for almost 20 years, without a road failure.
Monitor tire pressure often!!

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1363 7/6/2004 9:35:23 PM 7/7/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com New Tires Many racers use Nitrogen. The greatest advantage for them is that the pressure stays constant over a greater temperature range. I replaced all 6 of my tires with Goodyear Wingfoot "steer" tires. [Editor's note: Newell had good experience with Goodyear tires prior to 1997. However, with the change to 315/22.5 metric sized tires, we experienced very poor reliability with Goodyear tires, with sudden tread separations and blowouts. Therefore, we do not recommend Goodyear tires in the 315/22.5 size.] They work well...smooth and quiet. I'm thinking that the main reason the "big rigs" use different tires on the rear is for traction while accelerating. Since I dont drive my coach in the snow or mud I felt OK with trading traction for smooth and quiet.

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1364 7/6/2004 9:56:06 PM 7/7/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com HYBRIDES AND HYDROGEN OR GREEN FUEL RVS With all due respect to James, your argument would be more effectively made if you would refine your grammar, spelling, and use of CAPS! My interest is in clean quiet electricity generation. It seems that I read about a generator that used Hydrogen to produce electricity through a chemical reaction. The initial application considered was for RV use. At the moment I'm considering solar panels on the roof. I'd be interested in comments from anyone who has experience or knowledge about either of these technologys.

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1365 7/6/2004 10:08:44 PM 7/7/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com 1979 Newell Bendix air brakes Rich,
My '78 had wedge brakes. When one of the rear actuators pushed it's way off of the backing plate I decided to upgrade to S cam style.I bought all of the "non wearing" parts from a salvadge yard ( backing plates,rocker arms, and brackets etc.). I purchased new actuators, shoes, and drums. The braking capacity was increased by approximately 20%. The front brakes are still "wedge" but I'll convert them as well when they need replacement. I was very satisfied with the performance of the original brakes but decided to upgrade to more commonly available components.

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1366 7/7/2004 1:07:05 PM 7/9/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net 1979 Newell Bendix air brakes Dean - thank you!! I believe our coach also has the wedge brakes since the actuators sit differently from the trucks I have examined. They work well, but am considering upgrade for same reasons - especially on the rear. Question - are the brakes, shoes, etc., the same size, or did you need to change hubs? Also, how about the air balancing valves and controls? If you have any BOM you could share, it would be much appreciated.

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1368 7/9/2004 11:13:54 AM 7/9/2004 john leuenberger jeleuen@cox.net 12.5 Kohler Diesel Generator Rich, '82 Newell 36'. Have same gen and also did complete preventive mx last yr. Oil capacity is 8 qts. Filled with Delo 15-40. Presume oil pan oversized for greater safety margin. Run one or both roof a/c's for summer travel since engine a/c inop. Just completed trip Fl to San Diego probably ran gen 100 hrs, no oil consumption. Works great but a bit noisy.

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1369 7/9/2004 12:14:52 PM 7/9/2004 john leuenberger jeleuen@cox.net Sharing Info with classic owners! Nice to see info for classic owners since we seem to have common questions. Installed 4 new Gabriel shocks on my '82 36', results were unsatisfactory. Very bad bounce. So installed Koni's on the front, at a mid setting, much improved result. Koni instructions say the total adjustment range is 5 half turns. Jon K's description sounds like his might be a little different. Considering putting Koni's on rear also and setting front even firmer. Comments anyone? My experience is to spend the extra money for Koni's. Also appreciate flooring comments. Carpet just too hard to keep clean. Any ideas on how to open rear windows without getting a hernia? Just finished over 4000 miles Fl to San Diego towing light car. Engine temps a concern during high altitude climbs in Western states, up to 210 and sometimes higher. Temps normally 190 to 200 at level cruise. Wondering if temp gauge accurate, since it is 22 yrs old and some distance from engine. Cleaned rad 3 times to help. Any suggestions on whether replacement gauge justified, maybe digital, plus hard to see current one. Overall the Newell showed it's a fine coach with quality construction and was a pleasure to travel in .

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1370 7/9/2004 1:46:41 PM 7/9/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net 12.5 Kohler Diesel Generator John - Thank you much - As a matter of fact, had to order new dipstick (original broke). Just received today. Substutited with 1992 S10 4.3 Chev. Perfect length and operating markings in exactly the right place. So far, have installed 5 quarts which barely show. Was planning to add 1 Quart at a time until arrived at correct capacity.
Called Perkins and they said it was either 8 or 10 quarts. Next challenge is to find out where to have injectors cleaned and checked. Perkins says they are no longer available new.
Sounds like you are giving your coach a good workout.
We certainly love ours. It's theraputic for me to work on the rolling stock and surprisingly - these older ones attract more attention than many newer models. Some kind of a movement developing around older classic RV's.
Best,
Rich
Thanks again.

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1371 7/11/2004 10:00:19 PM 7/14/2004 Bill wrssr@msn.com 1974 Newell Ross Steering Box Do you think your engineer could give me the correct Ross model number on my steering box so I can rebuild it. My Coach VIN number is 3006RE1017D5H. When engine not running, the steering turns almost 1/2 turn of free-play. Having a hard time, as I stated before in previous letters, that it wanders bad on the highway. I've checked all tie-rod ends and they are good. New Toyo tires on front end - alignment setting you gave me are correct. If I can get the correct model number I will buy a repair manual for that steering gear and adjust box accordingly.

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1372 7/12/2004 10:04:00 AM 7/14/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com 12.5 Kohler Diesel Generator That Perkins was widely used in both Newell and B.Bird. Mine works great but is noisy as well. Several things I am considering. Much of the noise outside seems to come through the radiator. I'm condsidering modifying the front cover so that it extends out away from the body , filling the gap between the body and the front bumper. Imagine a "air scoop" similar in shape to GM's cowl induction hoods only placed vertically so it draws the air in from below the bumper. I have already done a "mock-up" with cardboard and it seemed to not affect cooling at all.
Another modification I am considering is to mount the whole gen exhaust system to the cradle so that it moves with the gen when you slide it out, thus avoiding having to crawl under to loosen that pipe union. When I do that I'll be looking for a quieter muffler as well!
I'd be interested in any other ideas to HUSH IT up!!!!
Dean

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1373 7/12/2004 10:19:35 AM 7/14/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com 1979 Newell Bendix air brakes Rich,
If I remember correctly we used the same hubs but the drums were 1" larger in diameter. Am I right in thinking the drums can be removed from the hub? I remember seeing the new drums, shoes and actuators laying there in the shop. I believe the new brakes are rated for 20,000#. I'm not aware of any adjustments that were made to the air system. This work was done at my buddy's shop. He owned a trucking Co. at the time with several qualified brake tech.s so I just let them do it and trusted them to set it up right. I think the cost was around $1000.00.
Sorry, Rich I don't know what BOM is!
Dean

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1375 7/12/2004 5:28:11 PM 7/14/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net Sharing Info with classic owners! Our 79 38' also commits some moderate front end bounce if roads get bumpy. Didn't pay attention to it until saw comments on bulletin board. Solution to date has been speed reduction, but it can get a little exciting if the bumps are unexpected. Adjustable KONI's sound like the ticket. Would appreciate if anyone would share correct KONI part numbers. Thanks in advance.
Rich Farr

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1376 7/12/2004 6:10:47 PM 7/14/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net 12.5 Kohler Diesel Generator Here is some FYI service info/comments on 12.5 KW Kohler Genset with 4.108 Perkins diesel. Just completed major service: adjust valves (.012 cold), antifreeze (50/50), oil (Mobil 15/40), filters (fuel & oil), clean electrical connections, bead-blast, paint engine, check/adjust fan belt and idler pulley, hoses, misc & etc..
Oil capacity (on ours) is 10 US quarts (79 year model).
Don't try changing Perkins fuel filter unless you are a pro and/or have book with 'correct' pictures and air bleed sequence instructions. Got serious 4 hour education on that piece of project. Lot's of colorful metaphors. Playing mechanic could endanger a man's relationship with our great Creator. Wife finally came to rescue with cold and calming liquid refreshment\humor. As usual, if the guy who designed it had to work on it, he would have made it 'lots' friendlier. Works great now, but would still like to top off service by having injectors (Perkins = Atomizers) cleaned/tested if can find good diesel shop in Tulsa area that does Perkins. Recommendations welcomed.
Also need to say - The info exchange on this bulletin board is tremendous for helping us keep our classic Newell in top condition. Appreciate all conversations and info exchange.
Best,
Rich Farr

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1377 7/13/2004 4:19:37 PM 7/14/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net Sharing Info with classic owners! To: John L; We have the same shocks, I just called it clicks for some stupid reason, I'm at setting 4 out of 5. I have the same problem sliding all the windows open. I tried all sorts of lubricants and nothing helped. I had been told that installing new welting would make them perhaps even stiffer, but in my attempt to cut down on winter drafts I needed to install new welting on the copilot's window and the window in the door. Gary Streeter at Newell Parts sold me the welting and I sprayed the groove with Dow Corning 557 Aluminum Lubricant prior to installing the welting. The windows freed up and are easy to slide. I suspect that the lubricant, which dries and still lubes, allows the welting to give slightly as the window slides so that it doesn't get tight. I'm thinking of changing the welting on all the sliding windows. If I do I'll let you all know how it worked. Now, if anyone knows of a source for the rubber seal for the fixed part of the sliding window where the glass fits into the groove I'd like to be nnotified. If you use silicone RTV as someone did on the copilot's window it takes forever to loosen the glass without breaking it, the original rubber seal makes it much easier. Hope this helps

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1378 7/13/2004 5:54:50 PM 7/14/2004 Drew Thueson rmrincdt@msn.com 66 Streamline Windshield I was told the windshield from the early Newells would fit my Streamline. If that is the case, I am very interested in availabilty and cost. Any other suggestions or input would be appreciated.

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1379 7/15/2004 10:29:09 AM 7/19/2004 Bill Zinn billzinn@pcisys.net 74 Newell "curb weight" and cruise control A friend who is looking at a 74 Newell can't seem to locate anyone who can tell him what the approximate "curb weight" of this unit might be, can anyone give us an approximate idea of the total weight? He's also curious about a cruise control that might replace the existing "hydraulic" cruise that is currently installed. Does anyone know of a good quality "after-market" cruise control that might be utilized in this unit?

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1380 7/16/2004 2:15:12 PM 7/19/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net 1974 Newell Ross Steering Box According to what I've been told there is a lot of free play in the wheel with the engine off. On my 1977 coach the Ross steering wheel will move a foot each direction with the engine off, but with the engine on the wheel starts turning the tires with less than 1/2 inch of movement. According to the mechanics that have worked on it there is no problem with the steering gear itself, but maybe they are wrong since I too have a bit of a wander problem. I'll crawl under my coach in the next few days but I believe that the steering gear is an HFB64 series. I have no idea if that would be in your coach or not. The model number is cast into the upper side opposite the pitman shaft on my gear. You should be able to easily see it unless you struggle with bifocals like I do and then nothing is in focus.

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1381 7/17/2004 6:32:37 AM 7/19/2004 Bob InsideGolf@cablespeed.com 1973 Newell Motor Coach Larry I have a '73 with the same engine. The 391 with a six-speed Allison combination is ok, but it would struggle pulling a tow vehicle. FYI we get a bit over 6 MPG driving in the west.

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1382 7/17/2004 6:38:53 AM 7/19/2004 Bob InsideGolf@cablespeed.com Sharing Info with classic owners! I have a '73 Newell and don't have any noticable bounce. I agree with the Tech responseÑnew shocks will solve the problem.

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1383 7/18/2004 10:55:58 AM 7/19/2004 Bill wrssr@msn.com Sharing Info with classic owners! Jon,

Saw your message on Newell's tech talk, I own an 1974 Newell Coach and have a BAD wandering problem. I have been working my way towards this problem for two years while fixing other things - I'm finally there. When you message appeared in tech talk you hadn't aligned your Coach yet - if you have, did it help? Mine was aligned and it didn't help. When your engine is turned off does your steering wheel have almost a 1/2 turn of free-play? Mine does. Because of the way the steering box is mounted I cannot get my hands into adjust box. I'm going to remove it and put in my bench vice and try to adjust, or if needed rebuild it. In my mechanic days, very seldom did we have to rebuild them - the adjustment took up all the slack. Besides I could walk right up and tilt the nose on a semi and adjust the steering box - it was all open. Without a model number yet for the Ross steering box I don't have the settings - might have to use my instincts - hopefully there is a model number on the steering box. I don't know how bad yours wanders but mine is all over my lane sometimes. Other than that the Coach is in absolutely beautiful condition. Being able to work on the Coach myself - I just installed quik-snap no glue wood flooring all through the Coach. Appreciate your time and any help you can give. Have a nice day.

Bill

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1384 7/18/2004 12:14:47 PM 7/19/2004 john leuenberger jeleuen@cox.net Sharing Info with classic owners! For Rich Farr, the Koni part number is 90 1867, says so right on the box, also "made in Holland." Think it was Gary in Newell parts who provided the number. Also seem to recall the same part number is used on the rear. Apprec Jon's experiences with stiff sliding windows. They slide a lot freer everytime we're in the Southwest due to low humidity. Sounds like no one has a cure yet to free them up without changing the welting. On engine temps, wondering how others are doing with Detroit 92 series at high altitudes on hot days. Rad is a 10 yr old replacement radiator. Still considering removal and having radiator shop give it a full check.

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1385 7/18/2004 12:30:43 PM 7/19/2004 john leuenberger jeleuen@cox.net 12.5 Kohler Diesel Generator Ran the 12.5 with and without the muffler. Actually it's just as loud with the muffler connected. Possible that the muffler lost its stuff over the years. If anyone has found a quieter muffler would like to know. Seems to use very little fuel even with both a/c's running. Hr meter stopped at 900 hrs. No idea how many now. None of the gauges seem to work either so have to check oil and water daily when using. The union can be disconnected from above with long arms. Rich, if your gen works great you probably don't need injectors serviced. Seems to be a great product from the Misty Isles. Regards.

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1386 7/18/2004 8:31:22 PM 7/19/2004 Ken Masat ken@masatfamily.com Sharing Info with classic owners! I've been driving a 74 Newell for 6 years, over 100k with our family bluegrass-gospel band, so have run into about everything, just ask. Will offer the following:
Front end bounce: Previous owner had 2000# of steel weight installed near front axle. He said he did it because it would throw you out of the seat. It rides great, though I had been thinking of removing same until I read some of your messages. Anyone else on this?
Engine overheat: We have a CAT 3208 turbo. Went through a long process, contacting CAT, Bluebird, etc. Finally installed a 6 blade fan (careful you don't get overcharged for one of these) and added extra 1" diameter to tighten up shroud area. Made big difference. Also, we have a water heater with holes for engine water to circulate. Works great, allowing hot showers while on road, and helps cool engine when needed by just running extra hot water during hard climbing. Also, found out the oil cooler was the small size for aspirated engine. Junk yard provided used larger size which I installed.
Flooring: We also have dark wood paneling, but I finally convinced my wife (who wanted to paint it white) that it is a classic color that is now coming back. We did strip out the old carpet and had new light green vinyl put in that really beautified the rig. Vinyl and installation all for $150.
We have redone about everything in this rig to date, and finally feel it is ready for the REALLY long haul.
(903) 768-2862

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1387 7/19/2004 8:31:55 AM 7/19/2004 Barrett J. Wolf bear@bearpaws.com 72 Coach Brakes Lights Out; V2... OK - No brake lights...I found the 'vacuum boost' with what appears to be a brake light sensor on top - just behind the LF wheel in the frame rail. The wires weren't hot, so I followed them back to the dash and it hooked to the Mico-lock switch. Can one of the factory veterans or an owner tell me if this is the correct brake light switch? BTW, the thing just will NOT unscrew from the booster. 508-771-9000

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1388 7/19/2004 11:06:32 AM 7/21/2004 Barrett J. Wolf bear@bearpaws.com 72 Coach Brakes Lights Out; V2... OK - found the brake light switch - comes off the air can just to the right of the LF wheel - Have also spoken with Mico-lock and the inline setup with the switch (referred to above} is the Mico-lock rear wheel brake, which uses a normally-open 60lb. switch to keep the rear wheels locked while stopped.

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1389 7/21/2004 6:06:23 AM 7/21/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Windshields Gary Streeter at Newell Parts (1-888-3NEWELL) advises that he has windshields for most vintage Newells in stock. As the coaches get older, obtaining parts becomes increasingly difficult. However, considering the critical nature of windshields in particular, Newell has gone to extra effort to maintain a supply.

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1390 7/22/2004 9:42:07 AM 7/22/2004 Frank Madler bfbooper@yahoo.com 1976 36ft coach I have a 1976 - 36ft Newell and am having trouble with the
house battery. It stays up for about 3 days and goes down. I'm
wondering if there is a short anywhere, or if anyone has a
manual for the camper. We got it but there was no manual or anything to show me how to do anything. I would apprecate anyone who has one--will pay postage for it..

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1391 7/22/2004 11:57:43 AM 7/22/2004 LESTER BURGESS LESTERBURGESS@TAMPABAY.RR.COM HYBRIDES AND HYDROGEN OR GREEN FUEL RVS Dean,
Steve has a good point on the hazzards to overcome on hydrogen. I think it will be a while. As far as solar panel: most RV solar panels out today give at best 4.5 -5.0 amp's max. at high noon. To power a coach of todayÕs standards off panels offered, it would take about 30-40 panels tied to a major regulator panel to just make out. You would have to fill the entire roof plus panels set all around the coach. There are some major universities working on perfecting solar cells. We need to work on making coaches with all the bennies with half the amperage.

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1392 7/22/2004 12:24:24 PM 7/22/2004 TechTalk Staff TeckTalk@newellcoach.com 1976 36ft coach Unless you know your batteries are good, we recommend you start with a load test of the battery bank. If the batteries pass a load test, then we'd suggest you have the amperage draw checked with everything "turned off." If there still is a draw indicated, removing fuses one at a time until the hidden load is found is not difficult. Unless you have the required equipment and knowledge to perform these tests, you will need to work with a qualified technician, although this diagnosis should not be too time consuming and expensive.

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1393 7/24/2004 8:26:09 AM 7/24/2004 Bill Zinn billzinn@pcisys.net EMERGENCY EMERGENCY EMERGENCY Need part number for outside axle seal for Rockwell rear end in 1974 Newell Coach. Broken down outside Reno. No part number visible on old seal. Cannot identify correct part number for seal. Please HELP HELP HELP. Call Ron Tilton Fernley, Nevada. 775-575-4267. Day or night number. 7-24-04

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1398 7/24/2004 3:05:59 PM 7/24/2004 Steve Saraga s.saraga@att.net Batteries, to go Gell or AGM Well...it's battery time.

I am wondering what the thought's are on gel vs. the newer AGM batteries for a starting/house system with 4 8D's.

The AGM's are actually about $20.00 less than gel's, but with the price that close, price is not the deciding factor, performance is.

I have had gel's for about 5 years, and have not had a bit of trouble, so I'm not sure if the newer AGM battery's have sufficient history to say they are better or not than gell cells.

What is the opinion here?

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1400 7/26/2004 5:49:02 AM 7/26/2004 Bob bstone@hbssystems.com Water Pump Does anyone have a Old Style HeadHunter JetPaq Water pump. I am in need of the pressure value. This pump was installed in Coaches until the year 2000

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1403 7/26/2004 1:54:02 PM 7/26/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Batteries, to go Gell or AGM Newell Coach recommends AGM batteries in lieu of the gel cell, and in fact now supplies AGM batteries as
standard equipment on the house bank of our new coaches. From time to time over the last 20 years, we have tried various gel batteries. Each time we tried gel batteries we have been disappointed with their longevity, and each time we discontinued their use due to high
failure rates. Conversly, we have found AGM batteries to be robust and reliable.
The AGM batteries appear well suited to withstand the charging rates of present day high capacity
inverter/chargers. AGM batteries appear to have a significantly longer life than either flooded lead acid or gel batteries. An unexpected bonus appears to be the ability of AGM batteries to store more energy than the same size flooded lead acid or gel batteries, allowing more time between recharging. The only downsides to AGM batteries are cost and availability. Well maintained flooded lead acid batteries give good service, lasting two to five years in a Newell, cost about a third the price of an AGM battery, and are available virtually anywhere.

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1406 7/30/2004 11:54:03 AM 7/31/2004 John Wright John.jwright@verizon.net Pneumatic seat Promise not to laugh. I have an air ride seat in my 1992 Newell which is extremely comfortable. I know it will turn around because there is a lever in the front that releases it. However, it hits up against the side of the coach when I try to spin it.
There are buttons on the wall side but I am unable to read them or operate them. I am of the mind that they will move the seat towards the center and therefore allow turning room.

Any help will be appreciated.

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1407 7/30/2004 11:56:47 AM 7/31/2004 John Wright John.jwright@verizon.net Aland Plumbing I have a 1992 coach with , I believe, Aland plumbing. I need a repair kit for the shower valve. Neither Newell parts or Hughes Supply can help. The company is out of busiess.

Does anyone know of a source for these parts?

Thank you.

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1408 8/1/2004 3:20:09 PM 8/2/2004 Jim Shepherd jim@rvsafetysystems.com Engine Mounts for Series 60 I am installing a Series 60 in an Eagle bus and thought I would go to the Mercedes of the Motorhome industry to buy my engine mounts. I am told that truck mounts will result in vibration and I am sure you folks did loads of research to find the best solution. Would you let me know what the part numbers are (front and rear) and I will order them. Thanks, Jim

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1409 8/2/2004 8:07:49 AM 8/2/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Aland Plumbing Most 1992 Newells have shower valves manufactured by Broadway. They are no longer in business, so repair kits may not be available. You may need to replace the shower valve with a different brand. Some of the other shower parts (hose, shower head, etc.) were made by Alsons and we believe they are still in operation.

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1411 8/9/2004 6:23:04 PM 8/10/2004 Bob InsideGolf@cablespeed.com Engine Run-On (Classic Rig) Recently I experienced a wiring meltdown in the dashboard from running my ref. on 12 volt DC for an extend time. After finding and replacing all of the melted wires I could find, I also replaced the alternator, regulator, solenoid, the coil and the ignition switch. But now the engine won't shut off when I turn off the key. I have a '72 with a 391 Ford engine. Anyone have any suggestions where I might fix this?

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1412 8/10/2004 8:59:33 AM 8/10/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Engine Run-On (Classic Rig) You may have wired your ignition coil to a constant 12-volt source. We suggest you turn the ignition switch off and check the power to the coil. ÊIf the coil continues to show current when the ignition key is off, than you will need to run the source of the power to the ignition circuit through the ignition switch.

Also, your DC refrigerator should have itÕs own dedicated and ÔfusedÕ 12 volt feed. The ÔdedicatedÕ fuse should have failed long before your wires ÔmeltedÕ down.

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1414 8/18/2004 11:37:25 PM 8/20/2004 Timothy Durham timdur@cox.net Pneumatic seat If it is a Recaro seat like I have in my 2000 model, there should be a seatback release lever on either side of the seatback. Operate the lever, push the seatback forward and you may have to adjust the front to back position, but it will clear the side.

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1415 8/20/2004 8:36:27 AM 8/20/2004 Kathy Freeman katfree9@aol.com FOR SALE 1973 Newell 31ft. $25,000 or best offer. For more info. and pictures please e-mail directly to my address above or call 619-561-5667 or 619-971-5786.

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1416 8/20/2004 11:02:30 AM 8/20/2004 ron harper ronharper04@comcast.net 81 newell Sorry to wait so long in answering your reply. I had forgot about posting it here and was still looking. Am still looking. Also found an 84 Newell with about the same milage and price. The 81 is $60k and the 84 is $61k. The price is not bothering me but the age is. Twenty years of use and buying from an owner instead of a dealer that will give at least a little warranty makes me a little concerned. But you are right about the coach being a good one. I kinda like the 81 better than the 84 but those are the only two I have found here locally.
I have my mother-in-law living with me & am not sure about doing anything until she passes on. She is almost 102 years of age and still going strong but I am in the looking stages.
Thanks for your reply and again, sorry for not answering sooner.
W.A.

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1417 8/21/2004 5:46:41 PM 8/22/2004 Tuga Gaidry tugagaidry@bellsouth.net For Sale 1993 Newell 44' with 143,000 miles. 985-381-6613

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1418 8/22/2004 4:25:25 PM 8/22/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net Steering Wander Solved There have been a couple messages posted, including mine, regarding steering wander problems with older coaches. After doing three things my coach went from being a bit of a handfull to a real straight lady. I don't know which of the three or some combination that made the difference but I thought I'd share my experience on my 1977 coach. Alignment was not a problem since tire wear patterns were normal and preliminary checks suggested it was right. I changed the steering oil hoses, 75 total feet, since the pressure hose was slightly wet where the hose entered the end fittings. I also lowered the front ride height about an inch since the front was riding higher than the rear. I tried raising the rear but the air bags seemed to have reached their limit. I also adjusted the steering gear at the screw in the middle of the side that adjusts free play. The book as I understand it says to tighten until resistence is met and then back off one turn. Verify this with your own manual as I don't want to be responsible for your rig. I had someone slightly turning the steering wheel back and forth and I found a sweet spot where the turning was most for the least steering wheel movement. Then I drove the coach and found the steering had dramatically improved. I suspect the hoses were the major difference since prior to changing them I could feel a mechanical "thunk" as the steering wheel passed the center position and I no longer feel that with the engine running though I do with the engine off. I could not see anything obvious with the old hoses other than the seepage but I also didn't try to since I was removing them only for the seepage issue. Well, there you go for whatever it's worth.

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1419 8/22/2004 4:31:28 PM 8/22/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net Front End Bounce Resolved THere have been a couple of us struggling with front end bounce. While adjusting my Koni shocks helped considerably changing the front air bags on my 1977 coach to the current Firestone 9324 bags changed everything. The new bags have a straight bell instead of a tapered one on the old bags. This would make the bounce resistence much more linear. Since I've changed to the new bags I'm actually considering backing off the shock adjustments I made. I also lowered the front ride height about an inch at the same time I changed the air bags but I can't see how that would have changed the ride characteristic, but I could be wrong. Well, there you have my experience for what it is worth.

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1420 8/25/2004 4:47:16 PM 8/26/2004 john leuenberger jeleuen@cox.net Front End Bounce Resolved Appreciated msg on "resolving front end bounce" from Jon K. What is cost of Firestone 9324 bags? And also wondering how does one adjust ride height, although do not believe this a problem on my '82. Thank you.

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1421 8/26/2004 4:52:43 PM 8/28/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net Front End Bounce Resolved I got them locally with list being $170 and my cost $111. The ride height control valve probably has an adjustable control rod, but mine had a steel tab at the axle with several holes in it. It had been set at the highest hole and I moved it to the middle hole.

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1422 8/31/2004 3:43:31 PM 8/31/2004 Joe Russo Relientkone@aol.com 76 Newell with the triple Nickel engine Hi everyone,

I recently purchased a 76 Newell In great shape, But here is my problem. The left muffler smokes but the right one is fine. Is it because something is sticking or is the engine going bad. and info will help greatly.

Thank You

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1423 9/1/2004 3:35:56 PM 9/1/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com 76 Newell with the triple Nickel engine Possibly a bad injector, or something else internal. We suggest that you have the problem diagnosed by a Cummins distributor's service department.

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1424 9/3/2004 5:53:34 PM 9/4/2004 Dean 67gto@myvine.com Generator Noise..... Noise Generator? My Kohler/Perkins 12.5K generator has always been noisy. Some noise out of the exhaust pipe (I thnk I can improve that). But most seems to come from the front though the radiator and out of the sides around the wheel openings. Any ideas for quieting it down?
1978 Newell
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1425 9/5/2004 4:59:18 PM 9/5/2004 Mike Jackson o11458@verizon.net Generator Noise..... Noise Generator? I've just purchased a new 2004 Holiday Rambler Ambassador with a 7500 Quiet Diesel generator. I opened the power plant door and was talking on my cell phone to a friend of mine while the generator was running. My friend said he could not even hear the generator at all. They are unbelievably quiet. If your Kohler has many hours on it, you might consider replacing it with a new Onan Quiet GenSet. If not, there are all kinds of sound insolating material that can be used. It can be purchased at a quality auto stereo store. Make sure you donÕt block any cooling or air movement corridors with the insulating material. Keep a close eye on the temp. gauge when you first start it up after instillation.

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1426 9/5/2004 6:15:47 PM 9/5/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Generator Noise..... Noise Generator? The largest capacity generator in the Onan Quiet Diesel line a 12.5 KW. This may be adequate for an older model Newell. However, several years ago, we built about a dozen coaches with this generator. We found that a late model Newell with three air conditioners, electric element in the Aqua-Hot system, electric refrigerator, an electric cooktop, etc., would operate this generator at near capacity, with a tendency to overheat. Even working with Onan factory engineers, the overheating problem was not resolved. In addition, at higher altitudes, generator performance degrades, and the 12.5 KW capacity was not adequate. All coaches built with Onan Quiet Diesel generators were retrofitted with 17.5 or 20 KW generators.

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1427 9/8/2004 3:42:10 PM 9/9/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net Air Brake Upgrade 79 Newell 38' - Planning complete brake job and check air system. Front has S-Cam brakes. Rear has earlier style wedge type. Would like to upgrade/improve in the process. Appreciate any tips/comments. Also parts list. Thanks in advance.

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1429 9/9/2004 3:00:02 PM 9/10/2004 Kurt Baumann kdb@nygmatech.com Yanmar Genset Won't Start Hello everyone. I have a 93 Newell that the Yanmar Genset won't start in. I have tried all switchs, the ones in the coach and the one inside the generator compartment. I replaced the relay as in the past I would have to unplug and clean those contacts at times for it to start. But this time the generator was running stopped running and now won't start. Has oil, changed the oil and filter about 20 hours before this happened.

There seems to be power to the connector that goes into the relay, but I get no joy in throwing the switch. Any leads will be appreciated, not a serious problem at the moment since I am back from my trip and just trying to do some maintainence on the beast.

Thanks.

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1430 9/10/2004 7:51:34 AM 9/10/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Yanmar Genset Won't Start Additional information is required, including possibly with some "hands-on" by a qualified technician, to diagnose your problem
(e.g. does the engine crank? Is it getting fuel? etc.). We suggest you
seek assistance from an authorized Yanmar diesel engine repair
facility in your area.

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1431 9/10/2004 11:02:30 PM 9/11/2004 Joe Russo relientkone@aol.com 76 Newell with the triple Nickel engine Hi,

Well it wasn't the injectors. Still dont know what's wrong. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You,
Joe

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1433 9/11/2004 4:42:02 AM 9/11/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com 76 Newell with the triple Nickel engine We suggest that you have the problem diagnosed by a Cummins distributor's service department.

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1435 9/16/2004 7:20:02 PM 9/20/2004 Barrett Wolf bear@bearpaws.com 73 Coach Engine revs... My 391 Ford Industrial Gas engine w/ Allison 6 spd auto is revving about 3000 rpm at about 50 mph. This feels and sounds low - Is it possible that the tranny is not shifting into sixth gear? Might this be a shift linkage problem? Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated.

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1436 9/17/2004 4:49:03 PM 9/20/2004 Bob InsideGolf@cablespeed.com 74 Newell "curb weight" and cruise control Bill, I have a '73 Newell (approx 31') that weighs in at 17,000. You might check with Sears for an after-market cruise. I have one that works real good. It was installed before I bought the unit.

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1437 9/21/2004 5:47:30 AM 9/21/2004 Dean 67gto@myvine.com 74 Newell "curb weight" and cruise control Bill,
I installed one of those totally electronic cruise controls in my 1978 Newell. It works well. My Newell scales at approximately 26,000 lbs.

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1438 9/21/2004 11:32:17 AM 9/21/2004 Jack Fortner jackfortner@charter.net charging of batteries I store my Newell coach outside in the California desert and over 3/4 months of non use the engine batteries (new) discharge even thought the disconnect switch is turned off. Will solor panels keep sufficient charge in batteries to start the engine. If so, how how many or size should have installed and how do I by-pass the disconnect switch?

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1440 9/21/2004 12:12:23 PM 9/21/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com charging of batteries We do not see solar panels installed on very many Newells, as most are stored with electric service available. However, solar panels will normally keep batteries charged in the situation you descibe. Unless you are qualified, the installation of solar panels should be planned and done by an experienced technician. You might start by inquiring with your local RV service shops or do a Google search.

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1441 9/21/2004 1:18:42 PM 9/22/2004 67gto@myvine.com 74 Newell "curb weight" and cruise control Dean, Thanks for the info. Where did you get the cruise control and do you have a brand name or model number? Do you or anyone have an idea of heating the bathroom? Ours has no heat. Ours is a 74 36' diesel.
Bill

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1442 9/22/2004 5:38:01 AM 9/22/2004 67gto@myvine.com 74 Newell "curb weight" and cruise control Dean, We just bought a 74, 36' Newell and would like to know where you bought the cruise control and do you have a model number. We scaled at 24,500.
Bill Moore

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1443 9/22/2004 7:23:38 AM 9/22/2004 kevin temperton ktemperton@apollotx.com Windshields cost for 2 1996 windshields installed. also cost for all new windows?

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1444 9/22/2004 9:40:00 AM 9/22/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Windshields If you would like a quotation on your windshield and window requirements, please contact our customer parts department at 888-363-9355. Please have available more complete information, including the serial number of the coach and the dimensions of the specific windows you require.

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1445 9/22/2004 7:02:13 PM 9/25/2004 Dean 67gto@myvine.com 74 Newell "curb weight" and cruise control Bill, My cruise control is a Rostra UltraCruise II. Here is their web page http://www.rostra.com/cruise-control.htm
It is totally electronic so no vacuum is required!
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1446 9/23/2004 4:12:48 PM 9/25/2004 Kathy Freeman katfree9@aol.com 1973 Newell Price lowered to $10,000 firm, WOW!!!!! You won't find another classic Newell in this good of condition at this price, ever!!! Moving must sell! For pictures or information please call 619-561-5667 or 619-971-5786 or e-mail me directly at the address above.

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1447 10/1/2004 3:13:57 AM 10/1/2004 Don Singleton d_g_singleton@cox.net 1973 Newell Hello. I'm going to look at a '73 Newell in El Cajon later this morning. Can you please send me any pictues and paperwork describing features and problems. Thanks in advance.
Don Singleton
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1449 10/1/2004 6:39:47 PM 10/1/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com 1973 Newell Please understand that, like today, a 1973 Newell was not a "cookie cutter" motorhome. These coaches were available in a variety of specifications, floorplans, etc. In fact, 1973s could be front engine or rear engine, gas or diesel powered, in a variety of lengths from probably as short as 25 feet to 40 feet in length. Indeed, in 1973, a rear engine diesel powered Newell was way ahead of its time, while a front engine gas powered coach was rather conventional for the era. Our best advice is to look carefully at is being offered, have a professional mechanic check it out, and then draw your own conclusions.

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1450 10/4/2004 2:14:24 PM 10/4/2004 bill moore 67gto@myvine.com 74 Newell "curb weight" and cruise control Dean, Did you put the cruise on a diesel engine? If so, could you please call me at 303-919-6188 as I know nothing about diesel engines.
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1451 10/9/2004 3:16:59 PM 10/9/2004 Bob Fetters jf3brand@idcomm.com 93 Newell We have stumbled across a 93 Newell that we find interesting. As I research other Newell Coaches, I find most are tag axle and longer. This unit is claimed as 38 feet with a single rear axle. I have yet to approach the owner with a request for a closer look, but it even seems narrower than 102 inches. Is any of that possible for a 1993? Is there any listing of specifications for previously produced units?

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1452 10/12/2004 7:33:59 PM 10/13/2004 Bob Fetters jf3brand@idcomm.com 93 Newell Our questions are moot. We returned to take a closer look and wound up buying the Coach. Our phone conversation with the factory was most helpful. Thanks! It is 102" wide and 38' long with 224 gal. of fuel.

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1453 10/13/2004 7:10:43 PM 10/19/2004 Dana Pearson jpear124@aol Defrost vents The defroster vents on my 1982 Newell are cracked and broken.Are they still availible I need four(4) of them ? The upper ones are fine.They look like a Ford auto A/C or dash vent of that era.

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1454 10/14/2004 2:27:19 PM 10/19/2004 Doug86 93 Newell I think you will love the coach. I bought an 86 model last year. Other than some cosmetic work, it is an outstanding coach. Congratulations on your purchase. You will be learning a lot about it for a while. I keep finding things I didn't expect.

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1456 10/15/2004 10:33:26 AM 10/19/2004 tommy klie tommy@westcliffeinc.com minimum charging amps What is the minimum amps required to keep the batteries charged? With the "box" that comes with the coach, you can use 20 -30 or 50 amps. When I store the coach I turn off refrigator and all a/c, heat and fan. Can I just use the 20 amp plug to keep the coach alive. Also, if the coach's batteries are dead, can you jump just the generator. Where are those electric lines for jumping. Finally, if this coach Unit Number 435 needs to be towed, can the tower lift the front end and tow. However, my putting it in neutral will towing hurt the transmission...Thanks for you help

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1458 10/21/2004 7:04:40 PM 10/22/2004 Bob Fetters jf3brand@idcomm.com 93 Newell We are very pleased with our new purchase. It is able to maintain Interstate Highway speeds over some very steep grades here in Colorado. Very impressive performance indeed. ~~ Every day we discover something new about how it functions. Lots of fun to be sure.

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1459 10/24/2004 11:37:25 AM 10/25/2004 R C Reynolds roadrunnersd_k@msn.com 85 Newell The speedometer on our 85 Newell with 305 Cummins engine, Allison transmission has quit working. Is the speedometer cable driven or eletronic? Waiting your reply.

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Ken newell classic@aol.com Generator Noise..... Noise Generator? I have 76 and 78 Classics. The 76 has a 7500 watt Kohler gas gen. and does ok, but louder than the 12.5 diesel in the 78. The 76 has 3 40 watt solar panels with a 2k inverter and has no problems keeping up, so I think that might be another option. My 78 with the 12.5 does fine also with 2 airs. I will be adding solar and a 2200 watt Pro-sine inverter. I agree with Newell Tech that a 7500 watt of any type isn't really the ticket for your coach unless you go with some other changes. The big gens are really expensive, thats why I opted for solar and inverter.

I have added a newer improved insulation and now have half the noice on the diesel gen.

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1461 10/25/2004 4:11:20 AM 10/25/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com 85 Newell The speedometers in the Classic Newells are cable driven. Please call Newell Service at 1-888-3NEWELL for help with repairs.