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ikcandco
09-20-2007, 12:23 AM
»»»»»»»»» 'Now, How About This . . .'
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'2007 Newell 4 slides'
»»»»»»»»» '23,000 Miles Price $497,000'
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»»»»»»»»» http://www.rvtrader.com/photos2/1889774/1889774_1.jpg
« ~ » Obviously there are 2 sides to any story and also to a 'Newell Coach.'
« ~ » > Other Photos and > Specs CLICK HERE (http://www.rvtrader.com/rvdetail1889774.htm)
« ~ » > Dealer's Website > Other Photos and > Specs CLICK HERE (http://www.heartlandbus.com/VehicleDetail.cfm?StockNo=1354)
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KC ~ 74

Mikeh
09-20-2007, 01:13 AM
Go for it

encantotom
09-21-2007, 03:44 AM
salvage title, ughhh and still needs to be fixed.

ikcandco
09-22-2007, 07:55 PM
Yep, This a real 'Smash !'
By viewing all photos, there are many hours to re-instate her and just perhaps too many.
And Material, Wow !
And Yep . . . A Salvage Title
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Does anyone knows what really happen to this coach ?
And . . .
We' All hope there weren't any casualties.
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KC ~ 74b What's this?

encantotom
09-23-2007, 05:24 PM
i dont know much about what it takes to "total" a motorhome from an insurance perspective, but it has to be quite a bit. there must have been major frame damage and not just cosmetic skin repairs and interior repairs. i cant imagine how hard it would be to sell this coach after spending all the money to repair it telling a perspective buyer what repairs were made and that it would have a salvage title. what i dont know is if all states have the same salvage title classification. i thought i had heard or read that some states dont and if that is true you wouldnt know what you were getting without researching. unless you were going to keep it forever and do alot of the repairs yourslef or money was not object (and then you should buy a new one), it would be interesting to see who buys it. i certainly wish them luck in their journey.

tom

ikcandco
09-26-2007, 02:00 AM
« ~ » A year ago on Thursday, Oct 12, 2006 I Posted this Subject :
'Braun Racing's Tornado Encounter . . .'
»»»»»»»»» 'NewellClassic.com' ««~»» 'NewellClassic.com' «««««««««
»»»»»»»»» 'Are Newells Well-built and Sturdy ?'
« ~ » If you haven't read the 'Braun Racing' post, take a look.
« ~ » >Under the 'SUBJECT POST' > 'Tornado Encounter Braun Racing . . . '
by CLICKING HERE (http://www.newellclassic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=156) The Post Will Open In A New Frame (Also Link to Photos)
« ~ » . . . this '2001 Damage Newell Coach' is 'Sold' but still on the website.
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KC ~ 74e What's this?

ikcandco
02-25-2008, 09:31 PM
» » » » Remember this Coach :
» » » » 2007 NEWELL COACH, Damaged, 'SALVAGE TITLE'
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» » » » » » » » Its Back and Asking
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» » » » » » » » » » » » Not > $497,000 but > $365,000.00
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» » » » » » » » » » » » » » » » 'On eBay !'
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«~» 2007 Newell Coach on eBay 'Loads of Photos' CLICK HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-NEWELL-COACH-damaged-salvage-SAVE_W0QQitemZ270214179547QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 270214179547)
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KC ~ 74g What's this?

Richard and Rhonda
02-25-2008, 10:44 PM
Well I would buy it in a heartbeat, but it's got that gosh awful front entry instead of a mid door. Oh well. Just my luck.

ikcandco
02-26-2008, 11:14 PM
» » » » » » » »Are You Suspicious . . . or . . .
»»»»»»»» 'NewellClassic.com' «««««»»»»» 'NewellClassic.com' ««««««««
>»«< People believe that if you break a mirror you'll have 'Seven Years Of Bad Luck' ;
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>»«< "Taboo Question ?"
>»«< Most 'Mirrors are Shattered' in this Coach and who ever rebuilds this Coach will
perhaps break more, does this imply that the "7 Years of Bad Luck" will follow the new
owner or stay with the previous owner ?
» » » » » » » » . . . Hmmmmmm ! ?
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>»«< Is this the main reason why this Coach is not yet Sold ? ? ?
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KC ~ 74h What's this?

ikcandco
02-27-2008, 01:50 AM
» »WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?
» » » » » » » » "Yeh ! Now Here's A Thought !"
» »WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?
» » » » » » » » "Why would Newell Buy this or a similar Wreck Coach ?"
>»«< Man oh Man, that is a 'Bright Question !'. . and I thought I was the only one that could deliver
those brilliant punch questions !
» »WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?
» » » » » » » » "This is what I'm thinking :"
» »WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?
>»«< a) For 'Newell Coach,' having 'One Of Their Babies Smash' is without doubt a disappointment ;
Perhaps a risk of having a 'Newell Coach' repaired to a certain degree might have damaging conse-
quences on a long run for Newell's Quality Creations.
» »WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?
>»«< b) Purchasing this or another 'Damage Coach' might be worthwhile for 'Employees ;'
» » » » » » » » "This is what I see :"
>»«< Organize as a 'Co-Op' after work or on 'Newell Freedom Fridays & Saturdays' (or so) employees
of different departments could work on rebuilding the Coach.
After all, who knows better a Newell than the employees !
When sold, the profits could be separated by the number of hours of each worker that worked on the
Coach, everyone as the same share in the profit$. . . Oh ! Nearly, Forgot to add my cut ! Thanks!
» »WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?
>»«< That is WHY.
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KC ~ 74i What's this?

Richard and Rhonda
02-27-2008, 01:46 PM
Well it's an interesting thought, but one that may have some problems with the bottom line money.

One, as any house flipper would tell you. You make your money on the buy, not the sell. A house in a certain neighborhood will only bring so much money, regardless of how much you put into it's renovation.

The point is that the coach will ALWAYS be a salvage coach, and as such, has a cap on it's market value.

The next bump in the road is that it costs more in labor to tear out and replace, than it does to build new.

In my opinion, there is a little negative financial motivation for Newell to buy that coach.

Also, I met a gentlemen a couple of years ago, that purchased a salvaged Newell and paid the Newell factory to rebuild it for him. He told me that Newell said "Never again".

ikcandco
02-29-2008, 03:26 PM
- Richard and Ronda,
- Thanks for your info and point.
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- I'll try to back-up my thoughts and see what You 'All think.
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- 1- Like all good projects there is an evaluation to be made of rebuilding and see if the
mission is worth while.
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- 2- If #1 is worthy, my attention wash focus on making of this project :
- - - a) A team assignment, 'No Cost Involve' with manpower ;
- - - b) It's an 'After Work' project ;
- - - c) Profits are separated by the number of hours of each person that contributed their time
and efforts ;
- - - d) I would think in a family community this would create a 'Kind of Bonu$' for interested
employees.
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- 3- One way or another (rebuilt by anyone or any company) the person purchasing this coach
knows that this coach is a 'Salvage Coach' and will certainly purchase-it at a great price.
- - - a) As I mentioned, for Newell, my guess is if this coach is rebuilt with 'Newell Employees'
not paid by Newell, it will certainly be a privilege for Newell Coach's reputation to know that
the rebuilt coach would be as perfect as possible not something you might see if a 'Salvage
Coach' is rebuilt by 'Company 'X'.'
- - - b) It's very easy to tarnish one's reputation and loose lots of ground by having a (in this
case) Newell Coach riding sideways down the road of having the coach owner swearing about
the glides and so on that don't fit and other stuff that others will experience by seeing, hearing
about a 'Newell Coach' without them knowing that it's a 'Salvage Unit.'
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- 4- The demanding price is still unreasonable for this 'Salvage Coach.'
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- So this is Why ! :wink:
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KC ~ 74j What's this?

Richard and Rhonda
02-29-2008, 06:16 PM
I guess that I am jaundiced by working in corporate America.

Given the litigous society that we live in, if I were Newell I would forbid my employees to touch a project like this. I doubt the coach can be repaired without the extremely large chassis equipment that Newell or other bus manufacturers own.

If the coach were free, then in my opinion it is still a bad deal. If Newell is associated with it in any way then they have an implied legal responsibility for the coach for it's lifetime. There is no way any money made could compensate for that liability.

In my opinion the only way to make any money on this coach is to part it out, and it has to bought for pennies on the dollar, not a third of it's original price.

ikcandco
03-01-2008, 03:54 AM
- Richard and Ronda,

- 1- Without seeing the coach, it's hard to say if there's damage to the chassis or not.
- - - Severe are your comments, from what I read, I think that when it comes to the words
'Salvage Coach' you really don't seem to care about such a vehicle or trust the results.

- 2- What Makes, in this case, a 'Salvage Coach :'
- - - A 'Salvage Coach' is not necessary a vehicle that you will have problems after fixing-it !
- - - For instance here is a part of the text that accompanied a Marathon Coach for sale by a
salvage company's, the text was in red :

> WHY YOU'RE PAYING SO LITTLE!
> When the insurance company decided to pay the coach owner in full, by Law, they had to
> brand the title, SALVAGE. This also gives Prevost and Marathon the right to cancel their
> warranties, however, the individual product warranties DO still apply. The original Marathon
> warranty would have less than 5 months left anyway. There are several aftermarket
> warranties available if that is important to you. So here is the question, why was it
> considered a salvage item when it did not require repairs? An insurance company must
> report any total loss scenarios and brand the title as such, no matter what the condition of
> the item. Since it was insured, the owner simply made it an issue, and rightfully so, that he
> bought a NEW coach, and was due a NEW coach back. Not one with even the slightest bit of
> residue. (I'll venture a guess that if he had not insured it, he would still be driving this work
> of art!) So, he ordered a new Marathon, the insurance company took the hit, now you get
> the savings! This coach was so perfect when I picked it up, my family and I left 24 hours
> later for our 15 day trip! My wife has serious allergies, if she can't tell how will you? Think of
> it this way, if the title was not branded SALVAGE, you would be paying THOUSANDS MORE!
> You decide, can you handle a deal when it comes your way, or will you let your banker,
> brother in-law, wife or anyone else tell you how to spend your money?

- 3- Many 'Passenger Buses' are rebuilt that are in worse condition than this Newell.

- 4- I must add :
- - - From the sale of such a project, the employees could hand over the profits to a local charity, organization or similar. :wink:
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KC ~ 74k What's this?