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1216 1/24/2004 2:30:54 PM 1/24/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com coach height The coach height, to the top of the satellite antenna dome, is approximately 13' 2". This is too close to call without actually checking it physically. However, if the satellite dome is too tall, you can consider removing the rooftop dome and using a dish mounted on a tripod on the ground. A
1217 1/29/2004 10:53:48 AM 2/5/2004 Gordon enery11@yahoo.com Tag Axel Steering Please explain the operation of the rear steering tag axle. Is there another web site that would have any more of this detail?

Thanks

Gordon

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1218 2/4/2004 10:09:46 AM 2/5/2004 Don Koenig donkoenig@juno.com Guages & Shutdown My 1984 with a Detriot 8V92 has wires at the rear terminal panel labelled "engine oil temperature" & "transmission temperature". Wires with the same markings are labelled "open" on the front terminal. I can see a sensor in the oil pan so what is the proper guage for oil temperature and the proper guage for transmission temperature? Guages have to match the sensor for accurate readings.
A switch on the dashboard is labelled "override". What does this spring loaded normally closed switch control? Detriot diesel documentation mentions a "hot wire relay" in the shutdown loop prior to 1988. Is such a relay used and where is it? I ask because a normally open high temperature sensor is on the driver side of the engine. It is provided power by the engine battery ( from the rear panel terminal labelled "Ignition fuel valve")and the output is wired to the shutdown solenoid. I do not see how a high temperature shutdown can be "overriden" on my coach. The high temperature sensor is not the original so some prior owner might have defeated the prior "override" capability. The orignal high temperature sensor would illumunate the high temperature light on the dash. Did that same wire go to a "hot wire relay" somewhere? I would like to restore the "override" capability if I can.

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1219 2/4/2004 5:41:15 PM 2/5/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net cruise control handle '79 Newell - cruise control handle broke where it snaps onto turn signal. Need source for replacement handle. Q
1221 2/6/2004 11:57:15 AM 2/7/2004 Adam Walkup Luvolekars@AOL.com Newell Classic Would anyone have any leads on a '78-'83 Newell that is reasonably priced. I would love to find something that needs engine work, etc. Any leads would be appreciated.

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Adam

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1223 2/7/2004 1:59:22 PM 2/7/2004 Mark Harison mharison@starband.net 1976 36ft coach I have a 1975 35' with original binders containing most of the original equipment brochures and some typwritten general instructions. I don't think that there was a comprehensive one-book covering all manuals in those days. I'll be glad to get you copies of anything I have. Engine is a Cat 1160 with 6-speed Allison.

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1223 2/7/2004 1:59:22 PM 2/7/2004 Mark Harison mharison@starband.net 1976 36ft coach I have a 1975 35' with original binders containing most of the original equipment brochures and some typwritten general instructions. I don't think that there was a comprehensive one-book covering all manuals in those days. I'll be glad to get you copies of anything I have. Engine is a Cat 1160 with 6-speed Allison.

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1225 2/9/2004 5:24:25 PM 2/9/2004 John Williams stcywllms@cs.com 1976 36ft coach Thanks, I need help on the wiring diagrams. If you have these please let me know. This unit has a 3208 Cat and an Allison MT 643 transmission which are pretty generic. If you have anything that would help please respond back and I'll get back.

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1225 2/9/2004 5:24:25 PM 2/9/2004 John Williams stcywllms@cs.com 1976 36ft coach Thanks, I need help on the wiring diagrams. If you have these please let me know. This unit has a 3208 Cat and an Allison MT 643 transmission which are pretty generic. If you have anything that would help please respond back and I'll get back. http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wanderlodge/

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1229 2/17/2004 12:49:08 PM 2/18/2004 mike yotguy@aol.com Hot Water I have a 1987 40'....What is an inexpensive way to get more or continuous hot water without running genset?

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1231 2/17/2004 9:30:11 PM 2/18/2004 Leon W.Yuille lyuille@giant.com Fuel shut-off relay Series 60 I have a 96 Newell that I'am having the fuel shut-off relay replaced for the second time. This is an unsafe condition. What is wrong with this system, and what does it take to correct it?

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1232 2/19/2004 8:32:25 AM 2/20/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com Fuel shut-off relay Series 60 We are puzzled by the description of this problem. Are you referring to the relay used to shut down the engine when the ignition key is turned off? If so, have you consulted a Detroit Diesel servicing dealer? The Series 60 fuel system, including the shut down relay, has proven very reliable over the years, and we suspect you have some malfunction requiring the attention of a qualified Detroit Diesel technician.

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1233 2/20/2004 11:23:13 AM 2/20/2004 otto burleson ottoburleson@hotmail.com change price on 1988 newell Please change the price of my 1988 40 tag 8v92 etc from $135,000 to $97,500 as soon as you can reasonable do so. Thank you ottoburleson Albuq NM

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1235 2/21/2004 8:47:28 PM 2/21/2004 Brion Johnston nmbjohnston@aol.com Newell Classic As of today (2/21) there is a 1975 33' coach on E-bay out of Portales, NM. After looking at the pictures, I can tell you my 1979 inside and outside is very similar to it, and it would be similar to others in the 1978 - 81 range. It has a Cummins 555 engine, 4 speed transmission, and single rear axle.

My coach is a 36" model, and my wife and I love it. Good luck on your hunt!

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1236 2/22/2004 11:36:17 AM 2/22/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com cruise control handle Rich,

My '78 had the old vacuum c. control with a separate 12V vacuum pump just to support it. When it quit I bought a new totally electric unit that didn't require vacuum or air. Around $180.00. I can't remember where I got it but I believe it was made by Dana. It has it's own Little "stalk" that mounts independant of the signal lever.Since my Newell is in winter storage I cant get more info at the moment.

Dean

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1238 2/26/2004 1:16:41 PM 2/26/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net 77 Coach Heater Boost Pump I thought I would update whoever is interested in my installation of a boost pump in the engine coolant circuit that feeds the heaters.

My system is 1/2" copper pipe. I bought a 1" Bergstrom pump and installed in the hose just downstream from the engine water pump outlet. I connected it electrically to a solenoid that was left vacant in the right rear electrical panel when the Bendix cruise control was removed. That way I didn't need to run a heavier wire all the way from the front not did I put significant load on the ignition switch that already has too much load on it.

Now as soon as the engine shows the slightest heat I can have heat up front even at low engine speeds. I didn't have this before installing the pump even though I thoroughly flushed all the lines. I still may have a restriction but I doubt it. At high engine speeds I can turn the pump off and it makes no noticeable difference in the front heater output. I suspect the oversize pump doesn't make a restriction when turned off. I would like to take credit for being so smart but it was just dummb luck.

On a recent winter trip I was still chilly while on the road in temperatures below 20 degrees. Not bad but not comfortable either. Then I discovered that my main entry door was slightly bowed outwards in the middle. I added a little foam weatherstrip and what a difference. We cruised home in 20 degree weather with only the defroster on by mistake and were almost entirely comfortable.

Lessons learned: the pump will help heat get to you earlier and eliminating air leaks will definitely help keep the heat in. I can send a picture of the pump setup if anyone is interested.

All the best to Newell for a great coach even when it is old enough to have voted in the last election.

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1239 2/26/2004 6:16:55 PM 2/26/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net cruise control handle Dean,
Thank you for the info. Not certain what kind of CC we have. It works well, but the control head snaps onto the turn signal handle, and the plastic broke - old age.
If unable to get a new one, will look into new electronic CC. Appreciate the beand name info. If you get hold of any additional info, please keep me in mind.
Best,
Rich Farr
918 296-0230

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1240 2/26/2004 6:17:34 PM 2/26/2004 Tony Combs combsandmore@aol.com air brakes I have a 1975 Newell motorcoach. It has the wedge style air brakes. Is there any way to adjust the brakes. It pulls left on hard braking and sometimes locks the left front wheel. When I am pulling a heavy load, they seem to fade and take excessive braking pressure. The pulling fades also until they cool down. The coach had new shoes and drums when I purchased it in May 2003. Any help would be appreciated.

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1241 2/26/2004 6:21:25 PM 2/26/2004 Tony Combs combsandmore@aol.com 1976 36ft coach I have the wiring blueprints for a 1975 model with a 3208 CAT and 6 speed Allison. If you want a copy of them, let me know.

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1242 2/27/2004 7:35:31 AM 2/27/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com air brakes Your coach has manual slack adjusters. They should be checked and
adjusted on a regular basis. Most heavy duty truck shops are capable of
doing this procedure, and it normally takes a matter of minutes. If
your brakes are not adjusted properly you can experience the pulling
and fading that you describe. Another indicator that your brakes need adjustment is a reduction in the
effectiveness of the parking brake to hold the coach on a slope. Late model coaches have automatic slack adjusters. However, even the automatic adjusters should be checked occasionally to confirm they are working properly.

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1243 2/27/2004 6:24:30 PM 2/28/2004 Tim Durham timdur@cox.net coach height I am taking delivery of a 2000 45' 8" unit. Have a 40 X 70 building with door opening of 12' 3". Not large enough for my coach with a ride height of 13' to the top of the dome at road height. Dumping all air brings the coach to 12' 9". But dumping the air and driving even slowly can be hazardous to tire sidewalls if there is not enough clearance in the fender wells. Newell claims that if you are on level ground and pull straight in or out that you should not rub the sidewalls. Don't count on it though. My solution - big bucks to enlarge the building on an existing slab, with a door opening of 13' 8".

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1244 2/28/2004 7:04:00 AM 2/28/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com coach height If the fender wells are too tight to move the coach with the air dumped (typically, only the drive axle tires are an issue), material can be removed from the inner edges of the fender moldings to provide the needed clearance. However, if your door opening is only 12' 3", the coach with a satellite dome is not going to fit. Either removing the DSS dome or modifying the building will probably be required.

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1245 2/29/2004 3:54:00 PM 2/29/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com air brakes Tony,
I had my 1978 converted from wedge style to "S" cam brakes. I would recommend not putting much money into wedge style brakes. Ping me if you want more info.

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1246 3/1/2004 8:52:12 AM 3/1/2004 S. Nyberg ivener@hotmail.com Lift Kits I am interested in purchasing a motorcycle lift kit for 1986 Newell 40Õ with a single rear axle. Does anybody have experience with these kits? If so, how much did it affect the axle weights? Was the lift placed on the front or the rear of the motor coach? Did it affect the steering or handling of the coach? Looking for input good or bad.

http://www.rvliftsofamerica.com/
http://www.overbiltlifts.com/

Thanks.

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1248 3/1/2004 6:15:25 PM 3/3/2004 Gene MCLeod genemc@shaw.ca Sharing Info with classic owners! Hi we just purchased a 1978 and am busy fixing up the electronics, We would also like to install 3 point seat belts and would appreciate any info on where to find some that will work with the pedistal seats.

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1249 3/2/2004 10:06:17 AM 3/3/2004 Frank Aragona frank@aragonaproperties.com Defroster 1993 My 1993's front windsheild defroster does not work well at all. Fogging up in cold weather is a real problem. I believe the fans and heat works, but the distribution system leaves much to be desired. I believe it is wood. Is there any fixes or after market products for windsheild defrosting?

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1251 3/3/2004 5:22:30 AM 3/3/2004 Jim jimkeefa@preferred.com 1982 Newell 6V92 Green or Silver? Did any of the 82's have the green engine or were they all the silver series?
Also, would like to know if the radiator is side or rear mounted?

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1252 3/8/2004 8:11:30 PM 3/9/2004 Barrett J. Wolf bear@bearpaws.com 72 Newell - Wiring I have recently acquired a 1972 Newell Coach, which is running quite well, though there are minor electrical issues. Are there any wiring diagrams available? Any information would be helpful.

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1253 3/11/2004 5:37:23 PM 3/14/2004 Bob Marlatt InsideGolf@cablespeed.com 72 Newell - Wiring Barrett, I have a '73 that has been reconditioned professionally. I don't have any wiring diagrams but I do have the (over dash) connections and fuses listed as to what they control. I can only guess that your's is a close match to mine. If you like I can either fax or email you a pdf of the list. I made a print-out and taped it over the fuse/wiring panel where it is handy.

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1254 3/14/2004 1:01:58 PM 3/28/2004 Bill wrssr@msn.com 72 Newell - Wiring Hi Bob, was reading tech talk, 3/14/04, I have a 1974 Newell - some of the name tags came off the fuse panel, maybe your '73 and my '74 are similar. What are the chances of you e-mailing me a picture of your fuse panel.

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Bill

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1256 3/14/2004 5:16:00 PM 3/28/2004 john sands johnfsands@aol.com Defroster 1993 frank,

i think you should check your air conditioning. in most units, when running the defrost, the ac compressor should run. this will help dehumidify the interior, and will lubricate the ac compressor during the winter months.

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1259 3/19/2004 6:08:00 AM 3/28/2004 Dennis Vickland vicklan@attglobal.net rear view camera I need to add a second video camera to the rear view monitor. It has a video1 and video 2 selector but where do the video connections need to be made?

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1260 3/24/2004 1:31:19 PM 3/28/2004 William O. Meyers meyerswo@psns.navy.mil 72 Newell - Wiring Would it match my 1968 fuse/wiring panel? Please email pdf of the list if Newell thinks it'll match; thank you in advance.

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1261 3/28/2004 5:34:27 AM 3/28/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com rear view camera Make the connections at the camera (a second one in your case), and the back of the monitor.

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1262 3/28/2004 2:46:52 PM 3/28/2004 Mike yotguy@aol.com clearcoat Is there an easy, cost effective way to touch-up the clear coat by a normal person? I have a 1987 40

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1263 3/31/2004 3:11:39 AM 3/31/2004 bryan bateman bryanbrangusrnch@aol.com coach height i am just taking delivery of a 1999 45' #536. my door to my motorhome shed is 13' tall. will this be tall enough or am i going to have to dump all air from the bags to drive in. the specs. say 148" tall, but it looks like everyone is saying 13' or so. please advise on this. thanks, bryan

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1264 3/31/2004 3:20:09 AM 3/31/2004 bryan bateman bryanbrangusrnch@aol.com New Tires i don't know if you have actually bought tires as yet, but do not put anything on the front except steer tires. the name says it all. they are especially designed for steering and driving straight. any other tire on the front could cause a disaster for you. thanks, bryan

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1266 3/31/2004 2:59:25 PM 4/1/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com coach height We believe the height of your coach to be 12' 10" (154"). However, considering the nominal 2" clearance, we suggest you physically check the coach against your door opening! A spotter on a ladder with a walkie talkie to the driver would do the job.

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1268 4/3/2004 7:00:33 AM 4/3/2004 Barrett J. Wolf bear@bearpaws.com New Tires There seem to be conflicting opinions about 'steering' tires. My RV mechanic, who has years of experience both working on and driving RVs, didn't think it was essential to go with them - of course, this is for my older ('72) Newell, which won't be traveling over 65mph or so.

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1269 4/3/2004 7:06:18 AM 4/3/2004 Barrett J. Wolf bear@bearpaws.com rear view camera For anyone who doesn't already have a rearview camera, Radio Shack sells a wireless unit for about $150. that's easy to install. All you need is a hot wire in the bedroom. In my '72, the camera can mount just below the shelving, looking out the back window and the monitor can sit on the dash. You'll also need the Radio Shack auto adapters that correct the voltage for each unit.

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1270 4/3/2004 7:16:28 AM 4/3/2004 Barrett J. Wolf bear@bearpaws.com GFI Outlets? Any thoughts on installing Ground Fault interrupter outlets in an older ('72) coach? My understanding is that one GFI placed inline will protect all the outlets 'downstream'. Maybe in the bathroom and in place of the external outlet.

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1271 4/3/2004 7:42:59 AM 4/3/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com New Tires Refer to our comments added to the message above dated 12/4/04. For tire brands and types where "steer axle" tires are offered, they offer better wear characteristics than "drive axle" tires. However, for some tire types, including the 315R22.5 Michelin Pilot tires currently fitted as standard equipment on new Newells, special steer axle tires are not considered necessary by the tire manufacturer and are not offered. Bottom line: if the tire type you are offering offers a special steer axle version, buy it, as the drive axle version would probably experience uneven wear problems if mounted in front. But if none is available, it is an indication that the tire is suitable for all positions.

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1272 4/5/2004 6:38:09 PM 4/9/2004 Harry Wuner wharvonw@juno.com 1982 Newell 6V92 Green or Silver? My 82 is silver and the radiator is in the rear.

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1273 4/5/2004 6:44:11 PM 4/9/2004 Harry Wuner wharvonw@juno.com 1974 cabinet hardware Try large boat places, got the same latch as my Newell used.

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1274 4/5/2004 7:00:51 PM 4/9/2004 Jack Fortner jackfortner@charter.net New Tires I am replacing the front tires and plan to move the front (steer tires) to the rear. Is there any problem?

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1276 4/13/2004 8:24:52 AM 4/13/2004 Dennis Wolfe dennis.wolfe@direcway.com Mixing Battery Types I would like to change the house batteries on our '87 coach from flooded wet cell to AGM type. I know I have to upgrade the charger to something that knows about AGM batteries and their voltage requirements. However, I'm concerned about what happens when the batteries are 'merged' with the chassis batteries (which will remain flooded wet cell) while driving.

Has anyone done this and if so, how did you insure the house batteries didn't get overcharged while driving? What about simply taking the 'merge' solenoid out of the picture by unwiring it so the batteries couldn't merge? Lastly, is there something I need to change on the generator to make it aware of the AGM batteries?

Dennis Wolfe

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1279 4/14/2004 9:13:02 PM 4/17/2004 robert ulseth rlulset@cs.com central air 87 newell i have central air on my 87 newell, condenser coils are no longer available. has anyone found a replacement coil?
has anyone installed a roof air to replace the central air?

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1280 4/16/2004 11:58:47 PM 4/17/2004 robert ulseth rlulset@cs.com clearcoat mike i visited with an owner of a 1980 newell who touched up his clearcoat by sanding the painted area with 600 grit sandpaper carefull not to sand thru the base paint,then sprayed 3 coats with a spray can of clearcoat made by dupont.when sanding the clearcoat over the alumum he used 1000 grit paper.
bob

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1281 4/17/2004 9:35:26 AM 4/17/2004 TechTalk Staff TechTalk@newellcoach.com central air 87 newell Unfortunately, condenser coils for certain Dometic Duo Therm central air units are no longer available. However, many of these coils can be repaired. We perform this repair routinely at the factory service department.

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1282 4/20/2004 7:56:03 AM 4/20/2004 Bob S robsaur@yahoo.com 1974 Newell Need help with early Newell. I am looking at a 74 with a 555 Cummins. I travel the Baja Penninsula in Mexico. Windy roads, lots of hills, and limited services. The coach is well kept and seems priced well at 25k. Will the motor do what I need? Cost and poss of re-power to more powerfull Detroit. Any help appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Bob

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1283 4/22/2004 7:18:39 PM 4/26/2004 Reagan Sirmons overcup@houston.rr.com New Tires Jack, I do not know the size and weight of your vehicle but I just followed the tech advice of John Clark and put the Bridgestone R293 (24,5's) steering tires all around. I had two Bridgestone steering tires on the front that were 4 years old and I put them on my tag. I agree with John that these steering tires ride much better. I am running 110 pounds of pressure all around which I believe to be sufficient. I drive a max of 68 / 70 mph. I put the 16 ply tires (24.5's) all around because of the weight of my '87.

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1284 4/25/2004 7:17:12 PM 4/26/2004 Larry Gettler lgettler@spinn.net 1973 Newell Motor Coach I am looking to purchase a 1973 Newell Motor Coach 30 ft in length. It has a Ford 391 Engine and an Allison tranny. I am interested in the gear ratio's versus road speed and is the Ford 391 big enough for this coach?
Larry

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1285 4/26/2004 6:46:56 PM 4/30/2004 Bob Jones Robertjer34@aol.com rear view camera I have a Mitsubishi but someone stole my monitor. Do you know where I could find a monitor that would be compatible with my camera. I have a 38 foot 1972 Newell coach with a 3208 Caterpillar engine. Do you know where I could obtain a chassis electrical manual? This unit has been well cared for and maintained. Please provide me with any informatin that you feel may be of help to me.

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1286 4/28/2004 6:15:09 PM 4/30/2004 James Tuckness JSTuckit@aol.com 71 Newell Holding Tank Replacement I need to replace the existing tank. How do you remove the tank drain and vent fittings? They are on top of the tank out of reach. This is a 30' gas coach. Also, was the original holding tank stainless steel or mild stee?

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1289 5/1/2004 6:13:10 PM 5/3/2004 W.A. Heard MBE1170@AOL.COM 81 newell I am thinking of buying an 81 Newell with a 6V92 Detroit Diesel with 140k miles on it. My question(s): How many miles are these engines good for? How long should it be before an overhaul job, and about how much does an overhaul cost for this engine? Any information will be appreciated.

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1291 5/5/2004 11:44:35 AM 5/28/2004 David Carroll Keywester@aol.com 81 newell Based on the fact that my company has run a lot of the Detroit engines over the last 57 years I feel pretty confident that you should get 500,000 miles out of the engine and then you can have it "in-framed" for about $4000 and you should be good for another 500,000. This does not include air compressors, alternators, water pumps, fuel pumps, injectors, etc. They are like your wife, they can leave you anytime.

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1292 5/5/2004 6:17:08 PM 5/28/2004 Dick Quirk quirkrjiii@cs.com '89 Owner's Manual We are missing our Newell Owner's Manual for the '89 Newell we purchased from the factory last October. Somehow it seems we misplaced it on the trip home from the factory. We would appreciate copies of any part of an owner's manual from a Newell of the same period. We would certainly be willing to reimburse you for your trouble. Our coach is a 40ft Classic style with an 8V92T and tandem axle.
Thank you,
Dick Quirk

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1293 5/11/2004 5:33:40 PM 5/28/2004 Tim Florio tjflorio@verizonmail.com Windshield Repair Parts I needed repair parts for the windshield wipers on my 1976 Newell. I discovered a great place for probably any windshield wiper repair parts, but for certain any American Bosch repair parts. Rome Truck Parts, 800-284-4345 ask for Bill.

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1296 5/12/2004 7:11:42 AM 5/28/2004 Bill Moore My Magiccarpet @aol.com Having trouble parking or storage of your Newell We want to trade into a Newell. We have a 26ft.,!978 GMC, Royal with twin beds in the back and a dry bath with separate shower. Over the last 3 1/2 years we have invested $60,000 and complelely renewed our GMC from a high preformance 455 engine and Allison transmission to new sinks in the kitchen and bathroom. A long list. We live in our beautiful gold GMC full time and we would like more room. The GMC will fit beside most homes. Please call for complete spec. and pictures. 303-919-6188

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1297 5/16/2004 6:55:06 PM 5/28/2004 Kelly Scott kscott266@hotmail.com 1980 Newell Trim The rubber trim or molding that runs along the side of the coach (black in color) seems to be shrinking. Leaving gaps in the front and the back.

Would anyone know where one can find this molding, or trim?

I have looked at several RV places and the trim they have on hand is always to wide, or the wrong design.

Thanks
Kelly

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1298 5/16/2004 7:12:01 PM 5/28/2004 Kelly Scott kscott266@hotmail.com Hot Water Mike,
Not sure of your question, but our coach has a Rartian Marine hot water heater. Elect. and uses the engine heat when running down the road to heat the water. You use the word continuos hot water? The unit is only a 12 gal unit, but showers 2 people fine. Hope this was of help.

Kelly

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1299 5/20/2004 11:11:42 AM 5/28/2004 Dennis dennis44sr@yahoo.com New Tires Go to a truck stop and look at the tires on the 'big rigs'. I doubt you will find anything other than steer tires on the front of the tractors.

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1299 5/20/2004 11:11:42 AM 5/28/2004 Dennis dennis44sr@yahoo.com New Tires Go to a truck stop and look at the tires on the 'big rigs'. I doubt you will find anything other than steer tires on the front of the tractors.

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1300 5/22/2004 1:07:22 PM 5/28/2004 john leuenberger jeleuen@cox.net Heat Pump Question for Newell tech staff and anyone else. Considering replacing older roof A/C unit with roof heat pump which supposedly cools and heats down to 40 degrees outside temp and also has auxillary heat strip. Wondering how well heat pumps work? Main concern is cooling. Next question: Replaced front shocks with Koni's and there was noticeable improvement in ride quality. Other shocks just not firm enough. Would there be much to gain by also replacing rear shocks? Thanx for any comments. John L

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1301 5/22/2004 11:15:24 PM 5/28/2004 Ted Johnson ted@denverbiodiesel.com Sharing Info with classic owners! I'm about to do a 1977 to live in & promote biodiesel.

Would like to share ideas & experience.

I want to paint the entire interior--dark woodgrain to white. Looking at bathtub refinishing technique. Thoughts?

Ted
Denver, CO

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1302 5/26/2004 2:53:31 PM 5/28/2004 Mike Reganold yotguy@aol.com perma pub Cannot get our "pub" to pump fluids. The original owner says he never used it.Does someone have an owners manual or advice...Thanks,Mike (503)310-8272 Portland,Oregon

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1303 5/27/2004 12:03:32 PM 5/28/2004 ron harper ronharper04@comcast.net 81 newell hi w.a , just curious , how soon are you buying , & if you don't mind , what price, newell is a great coach, thanks ron

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1304 5/28/2004 2:14:30 PM 6/1/2004 Allen Reames aljoba@att.com perma pub I had my unit parked for 3 years and didn't use it. I removed the entire perma pub unit, made sure that the tubes were not obstructed and then drilled an extra hole in the stopper for the bottles, put it back together and it worked. However, before I did this, I tried to get information about the manufacturer without success. I do have a manual of sorts and will copy it for you. Give me an address to mail.
Allen

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1305 5/28/2004 3:16:08 PM 6/1/2004 Allen Reames aljoba@att.com Speedo/Cruise Control '86 Newell with Bendix control on Transmission. While driving on a VERY rough road in South Dakota both speedomoter and cruise control quit. Later Guarantee tried to fix and said the sender on the transmission was pulsing. I think it may be an electric disconnect in the front. Where do I look for connection from the sender?
Also, my little post lights on the dash are ALL out. Is that also a single connection someplace? Thanks!
Allen Reames

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1306 5/28/2004 7:07:20 PM 6/1/2004 Allen Reames aljoba@att.net perma pub Mike, ignore my prior message with an email address of aljoba@att.com. It was Friday afternoon and I lost it, although I was able to find my way home unassisted. My wife was kind enough to point out the error. I will copy the manual and send when I have your address sent to aljoba@att.net.
Sorry. Allen

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1307 5/30/2004 10:04:14 AM 6/1/2004 Rick Moody excaliber@cableone.net 1973 Newell Motor Coach Hello;

I have a 1969 Newell, that sounds alittle like what your add says you are looking for. Rick Moody 417-781-3108

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1309 5/31/2004 6:03:46 PM 6/1/2004 John Williams stcywllms@cs.com Private Coach
I have Private Coach Serial # 3500REI044D12J MTR # 4053875 CA 3208. Can give me the year model and details as to what this coach had in it originally. The floor plan appears to have been changed over the years. Please give me any history you can.

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1310 5/31/2004 6:12:13 PM 6/1/2004 John Williams stcywllms@cs.com 1976 36ft coach Combs
Have not forgotten to get back with you. Yes I need diagrams. Let me know the number of pages so I can figure out the postage or if you can scan. I'll gladly pay postage or FEDEX.

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1311 6/1/2004 3:25:02 PM 6/5/2004 ted Johnson ted@denverwebworks.com Drag link for '77 Anyone know what front end is in a 77? Shop says I need a new drag link. (I told 'em I wouldn't be draggin' with it but they insist.) Is it a standard front end from Ford or Freightliner or?

Thanks--need it fast. Driving to CO Friday
Ted
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1312 6/1/2004 8:14:50 PM 6/5/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com Sharing Info with classic owners! Been working on my 1978 for 5 years . I've got LOTS of questions! Maybe a bulletin board for "Classic" owner/restorers?
1. How do I fix the "corrosion" (white powdery substance) bubbling under the paint?
2. I haven't found a good way to brighten up the dark formica either. Ours still doesn't show any wear so I hate to cover it up!
3. Yeah, seat belts would be great. The only way I know of to install them would be to use updated seat pedastels.
4. I wonder if the welting in the windows could be replaced. That's all that's wrong with mine. At $200.00 or more per window for new ones it would be worth it to R/B these if possible.
Dean
N/E Indiana

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1314 6/5/2004 10:55:21 AM 6/6/2004 Bill wrssr@msn.com Sharing Info with classic owners! Dean, I have a 1974 Newell. The inside is real dark from the formica walls, somebody suggested that I put in the light colored QuickStep 800 Uniclic flooring. Having never installed flooring before took me about 3 1/2 weeks to complete from start to finish. Stripped carpet from between drivers seats to back bedroom. Found out there was linoleum all through coach which was a good thing for this new style flooring - creates a vapor barrier. Had to remove linoleum in a couple of spots because it had raised because of its age which is normal. Had a couple of rotten spots in hall by bathroom - went back to my old bodyman days - instead of using wood filler, which I knew wasn't strong enough, I used fiberglass "kittyhair", which is the apoxy mixed with chopped matting. Used an air grinder and sanded smooth. Than I had to pull the 1001 staples used to put carpet in. Out here in the northwest, becasue of the 4 seasons, when ready for the new flooring, I laided down 2 layers of #4 plastic, then laid down uniclic's plastic membrane and then started laying the flooring. Because of Newell's rounded corners, it took longer to round the corners on the flooring so it would look right, and because of uniclic's 1/4" expansion gap all the way around the flooring, it took a while. The flooring came out absolutely beautiful. The first thing I noticed when done and cleaned - because of the light oak flooing, and I mean "light", it light up the dark formica paneling and actually enhanced it. During the day the light from the windows hit the flooring and lights up the walls and everything. When its dark out I turn on the lights in the coach same thing happens. I highly recommend it. Like you, I was thinking about painting the walls - but I knew I had to find a primer to paint on the formica - haven't been able to find a primer that would hold - in time it would probably peel. Picking up pictures of what I done today. If you want pictures can scan and e-mail to you. Bill

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1315 6/6/2004 4:44:34 PM 6/10/2004 Rich Farr toptin@cox.net 1979 Air Bag & Brake Upgrades 79 Newell 38' - We schedule preventative maintenance each year to keep coach in A-1 shape and make improvements where possible. This year is air bags and brakes. Are there any service bulletins or upgrades on either of these items? Thanks in advance.

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1316 6/7/2004 8:58:48 AM 6/10/2004 Carl Burton carlburton@yahoo.com central air 87 newell We have an '88 Newell. Although all three basement a/c units work okay at present, I am more comfortable with roof units. So, we very recently put two Duo-Therm 11,000 BTU low profile roof units on our coach and had the covers painted the same color as the coach. The units cool just fine at 95 degrees and below and I use the basement units only if I need to. Really like the Duo Therm roof units and they are not nearly as noisy as some. And unless the basement condenser coils are totally eaten up from internal acid, they can usually be repaired. Regards, Carl

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1317 6/7/2004 12:38:58 PM 6/10/2004 Richard Cameron dadcameronAZ@aol.com Koni Shocks I would like to improve the ride of my 1998 (#478) Would Koni shocks do this or is something else recommended.

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1318 6/7/2004 5:24:32 PM 6/10/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com Sharing Info with classic owners! Thanks Bill, I wonder if the Quick Step is like that laminate flooring? It interlocks and you glue each piece as you install. It kind of "floats" ie it's not nailed down to the sub-floor. We just had that installed in one of our rental houses. It looks great! What did you do around the front wheel housings? We just carpeted them when we carpeted the floors. Pics would be great. In fact I've been thinking of trying to compile pics of classic Newells so if you have one of the outside that would be neat!
Dean

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1319 6/7/2004 9:36:25 PM 6/10/2004 Raul Cortez raul-cortez@sbcglobal.net New Tires I just bought new tires for my 1995 Newell Coach and I bought Bridgestone R293 24.5 Load Range H. The H rating is 16 ply versus the G rating which is 14 ply. The G rated tire is most popular at tire dealers. You have to order in the H rated tire and will take a couple of extra days to come in. A potential buyer of my coach noticed a thumping sound when we were test driving the coach. He walked to the bedroom and noticed a thumping sound coming from the drive axle area. I didn't feel right selling the coach with tires that could potential blow out at any given time, so I replaced them with the Bridgestone R293 Load range H. This also solved the thumping sound that was caused by an inside drive axle tire that had bad cupping. We couldn't see it while it was installed on the coach. Once it was off the wheel....you could tell how bad the tire was and right away I new that was causing the thumping. I feel much better about selling my coach now that it has the new tires.

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1320 6/8/2004 6:15:02 AM 6/10/2004 Ted Johnson ted@denverwebworks.com Sharing Info with classic owners! Turns out mine is a 1976. Just drove it Houston-Denver with no problems.

Mine has a terrible bounce. If the road conditions are just right the driver can go airborne. Shop insisted the shocks were not leaking--replaced not long ago. Will Koni's or another brand make a big difference? Any other suggestions?

Steering wanders--lots of play. New steering tires. Newell's service dept gave shop instructions on adjusting drag link. Has anyone tried the various stabilizers or centering devices advertised?

Thanks for the flooring experience, Bill. Anyone tried ceramic tile?

Ted

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1321 6/8/2004 6:35:47 AM 6/10/2004 Ted Johnson ted@denverwebworks.com King to twin bed rig Can anyone send drawings, pics, or a good description of how the twin beds are set up to slide together? My 76 doesn't have that feature--would like to add it.

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1322 6/9/2004 4:05:02 PM 6/10/2004 William Griffith guzzi@bayou.com 1974 Newell We have a 78 Newell that "had" a 555 Cummins (214hp WHEN NEW). We felt that the 555 was sluggish on take off and terribly under powered. While it will eventually get up the hills, it will take a while and after everything else passes you. When we had problems (blown engine) we found that the 555 is an old out-dated engine, few machanics know how to work on it, parts are not readily available and to rebuild the top end would be over $13K. The coach is otherwise in excellent condition, with everthing in good working order and we got it at a great price so we opted to upgrade to a 6V92 (350hp) Detroit diesel. Of course, in doing this, we had to change the transmission and rear end (that had to be custom built because the rear end company was out of business). We will end up paying more for the change over than the rebuild but hopefully the increase in horsepower will be worth it. If you have any other questions that I can help you with, please let me know. William

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1323 6/9/2004 4:34:13 PM 6/10/2004 Ken White LuxuryCoachLifestyle@aol.com 77 Coach Heater Boost Pump Hi Jon, I would really like to see some pics of the installed product. I have a 1978 with a 6V92TA. A
1325 6/10/2004 7:02:12 PM 6/20/2004 Dean Stoops 67gto@myvine.com 1974 Newell William,
I'd be interested to know more about your re-power experience. Did you consider any other engines? ( Cummins B series?).
Thanks,
Dean

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1326 6/10/2004 7:22:38 PM 6/20/2004 Brion Johnston nmbjohnston@aol.com Sharing Info with classic owners! Ted - I put a Steer Safe stabilizer on my 1979 coach about a year ago. We get lots of strong wind in SE New Mexico and have some rough two-lane highways. I have noticed a big difference since first installing it. They have one that is designed for older Newells.

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1327 6/11/2004 11:26:35 AM 6/20/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net Sharing Info with classic owners! My 77 coach has Koni's on the front that were set to the lowest setting and I had the same bounce you mentioned. After I launched my wife a couple times I decided a change was needed. I adjusted the shocks to the number 3 setting and a noticeable reduction in bounce occurred. I'm thinking of trying the number 5 setting just to see what happens. The shocks can be adjusted by loosening the top end and following the Koni instructions. I too am working with a wander problem. My toe-in is currently set at zero and we'll begin working some toe-in in when the shop gets their alignment equipment working. They will also verify the caster as they said that can be a problem as well. My coach has some spring style centering gizmo that didn't make any difference when I removed it. I've left it on just for the heck of it.

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1328 6/11/2004 11:32:34 AM 6/20/2004 Jon Kabbe jckabbe@earthlink.net King to twin bed rig Hey Newell Board: I've gotten a few requests for pictures of changes made to my coach. Is there some way to post those here somehow rather than sending them direct. As long as there is some disclaimer that you aren't approving the changes I think it would be helpful to see what people are doing. Or maybe we/you set up a Yahoo group for Newell owners as several other owners groups have done. Personally I'd prefer to share here but I recognise there may be valid reasons to keep separation. Just a thought.

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1329 6/11/2004 11:38:52 AM 6/20/2004 JAMES BRASELTON MavBraselton@adelphia.net HYBRIDES AND HYDROGEN OR GREEN FUEL RVS HI THER NEWELL COACH WOUNDER IF ANY HYBRIDE OR FUEL CELL HYDROGEN RVS IN THE FUTURE TO HELP WITH EFIENCY LIKE THE HONDA CIVIC OR PRIUS SO INSTEAD OF 10 MILES PER GALLON YOU MAY GET 14 MILES PER GALLON OR HIGHER DO ANY ONE THINK THAT HYBRIDES OR HYDROGEN IS ONLY FOR CARS TRUCK OR SUVS WITH BUSH FREEDOM CAR ACT I THINK IT WELL GO TO 18 WHELLERS RVS BOATS SHIPS AIRPLAINES I DO KNOW THATS A LONG WAY OFF IN THE FUTURE OF RVS OR MOTOR HOMES BUT ONE DAY RENEWABLE BIO FUELS LIKE BIO DISSEL OR HYDROGEN IN THE FUTURE BESIDES THAT EVERY WEB SITE SAY OUT OF FOSSILE FULES IN ABOUT 40 TO 150 YEARS EVEN IF WE TRIED TO RASE EPA MILAGE ON EVERY THING WE WOULD ONLY SQEEZE OUT UNTIL 2350 THEN THE GLOBAL FOSSILE FUELS BE DRYED UP AROUND THE WORLD BECAUSE FOSSIFULES ARE NOT RENEWABLE WHEN THE WORLD RUNS ITS OUT PERMENTLY GOOD THING HYDROGEN FULLING STATIONS ARE GOING UP AND HYDROGEN CAN BE MADE FROM ANY AND ALL SORCES UNLIKE FOSILE FULES AND BIO FULES CAN BE MADE FROM ANY SORCE TOO I AM COURIOUS IF IT WOULD WORK ON A BIGER SCALE LIKE GM HAS 300 DISSEL ELTRIC BUSES IN SEATEL THAT ALRADY SAVING A MILLION GALLONS OF FUEL PER YEAR SO WHAT THE GREEN TECHNOLGY SHOULD NOT JUST STAY IN THE MOST POPULAR VEHICAL LIKE SUVS OR CARS BESIDS THE HYDROGEN CAN BE MADE FROM SUN LIGHT AND WATTER OR WATTER WITH WIND ELTRICTY OR WATTER FROM WATTER POWER PLANTES AT LEST A MINUM OF 40 YEARS BEFORE THE GLBAL PROVEN RESERVES RUN OUT ON FOSSFULES BUT SOME SAY WE HAVE LOTS MORE FOSSIFULES TO GO SO HOW MUCH OF FOSSILE FULES OF UNPROVEN RESERVS AFFTER THE PROVEN SUPLY RUNS DRY BUT NO ON SAYS FOSSILE FULES OF PRTOLUM WILL NEVER LAST FOREVER AT LEAT LIKE Y-2-K COMPUTER PROBLEM WE KMOW IT WILL ADVENTLY COME BUT HOW SERIOUS WILL IT BE AT LEAST WE ARE NO NEAR PANIC TIME YET LIKE Y-2-K WHEN EVERY COMPUTER SUPOSED TO SHUT DOWN ALL OVER THE WORLD I BET ANY THING HYBRIDS BIO FUELS AND HYDROGEN WILL BE AS CHEAP OR CHEAPER THEN THE COMBUSTION ENGINGE BUY THE TIME THE FOSSILE FULE RUNS DRY ARUND THE WORLD MAY PEAK $3.00 PER GALLON OR $7.00 OR EVEN $12.50 PER GALLON ON SOME WEB SITES SAY THAT BE ABOUT THE FEW DROPS OF FOSSI FULES REMAIN SO WE HAVE TIME TO PLAN THE FUTURE WAY AHEAD SO WE DO NOT RUN INTO A BIG PROBLEM IF NOT NO BIGGY THAT IS ABOUT 40 YEARS BUY MOST ENERGY COSOMPUTION REPORTS PROBLY 2010 OR 2020 IS ABOUT REASONABLE AMOUT TO TIME BEFORE IT IS PRATICAL TO HAVE THAT TECHONLGY OR LITTEL SONER HYBRIDES WOULD BE PRATICAL BUY THAT TIME FROM 2010 TO 2020 BECUASE MORE HYDROGEN FULLING STATIONS OR MODIFY GAS STATIONS TO HAVE HYDROGEN PUMPS BETWEEN 2020 TO 2050 THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH HYDROGEN FULLING STATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD ARNOLD WANTS CALLIFORNA TO GET IT ACT IN GEAR PERPOSING 200 HYDROGEN FULLING STATIONS IN CALIFORNIA BUY 2010 BESIDES OF THE 40 THAT ARE THERE FROM PREVIOUS STUFF BUT IT ALSO GOSE ALL ACROSS THE STATE JUST NOT IN A LOCALIZED PLACE TO MAKE SURE WHEN HYDROGEN VEHICALS BECOME PRACTICAL THEY DO NOT RUN OUT OF HYDROGEN AND HAVE TO CALL NASA FOR HYDROGEN IT CAN USE MEATHANE FULE TO LIQIUD OR GAS FORM HYDROGEN THE CHRISTLER MINIVAN PROTYPE ON SOME HYDROEN SHOWS IT USEING THE SAME STUFF YOU WASH DISHES WITH AND ONLY TAIL PIPE STUFF IS PURE WATTER NO SMOG EMISSIONS AT ALL THATS WHY THEY WANT TO GET AS MANY THING BUILT UP SO IT WILL GIVE COMUSTION ENGING A RUN FOR ITS MONEY BESIDE LOTS OF SCIENTIST THINK WITH 1.3 BILLION VEHICALS ON THE ROAD THAT WE WOULD CHOKE PLANET EARTH IF ANOTHER 500 MILLION COMBUSTION ENGINE GETS LOSE AT 2 BILLION WITH A POPULATION GOING TO 9 BILLION OR HIGHER BESIDES THAT GLOBAL WARMING AND HEALTH PROBLEMS OH BUY THE WAY DID ANY ON WATCH THE DAY AFFTER TOMAROW MOVIE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING I HAVENT BUT I HERD THAT IS GOOD AND THE PREVEWS LOOK GREAT BUT WITH THE ANTI CAR ANTI SUV I CAN NOT GO SEE IT UN LESS I HAVE A RV OR HILLICOPTER OR WALK 15 MILES TO THE MALL OF GORGIA AT LEAST YOU GET TO CAMP OUT TO REDUCE POLUTION AND SAVE ON FOSSI FUELS MAY BE THATS WHY THE GREENIES HAVE NOT THEY THINK YOU USE BATTERY POWER WHEN CAMPING OUT AND RVS HAVE SOLAR VENTALTION WICH SAVES ENERGY REDUCES POWER CONSUMPTION AND USES UP SUN POWER TO REVERSE GLOBAL WARMING A HYBRID EATHER LIGHT MILD OR HEAVY OR FULL HYBRIDE GIVES YOU FROM 1 PERCNT TO DOUBLE YOU FUEL ECONMY DEPENDS ON HOW DRIVE AND WICH VERSION OF THE HYBRIDE YOU CHOSE THE MILD GET 10 PERCENT FUEL SVAINGS OR BETTER MILES PER GALLON A FULL VERSION LKE HONDA OR TOYOTAS PRIUS IS 50 PERCENT TO DOUBLE MILES PER GALLON OVER JUST COMUSTION ALONE HYBRIDS ARE GAS OR DISSEL WITHA ELTIRC ENGING FOR SLOW SPEEDS THE COMBUSTION ENGING SHUTS OFF WHEN YOU STOP LIKE AT RED LIGHT OR TRYING TO PARK THEN WHEN YOU NEED ESTRA POWER THE ELTRIC ASSEST ENGING HELPS THE COMBUSTION ENGING SO GOT THE DISSEL WITH THE ELTRIC TO GIVE ESTRA BOOST WHEN NEEDED LIKE A ELTRIC TURBO CHARGER BESIDES I HOPE BUSH WILL UP THE ANTI WITH 4 BILLION DOLLAR HYDROGEN INFERTRUTURE FOR 4 YEARS TO RELY SPEED THINGS UP ON THE HYDORGEN MY LITTEL TOWN BRASELTON GORGIA AT EXIT 129 ALREADY GOT A MACDOALDS SHELL STATION THAT CARRIES HYDROGEN WE USALY IN GORGIA GET A BIG PIPLINE FOR ALL FUEL GAS DISSELL NETRAL GAS PROPANE IN FACT I THINK WE USE THE HYDROGEN FULL PIPE THAT CONECTS TO CAPE CANAVERAL ROCKET FUEL OR AT LEAST I THINK THAT WHAT I READ IN THE LOCAL NEWS PAPER CHEAP DO NOT BURDEN WITH TAXES AND BESIDES THAT THE GAS DISSEL GETS A PIPE LINE IN TEXAS AT THERE REFINERY AND NATRAL GAS AND PROPANE BESIDS THAT I THINK AT THERE NASA SITE SAYS IT COULD PRODUCE 255,000 PER MINUTE OR 4,200 PER SECOND OR 15,300,000 PER HOUR SO FAR AT MALL OF GORGIA GORGIA TECH IS TRYING OUT 2 HYDROGEN HUMMERS THEY DUMP WATTER OUT OF THERE PIPES CREATED THUNDER STORM IN ABOUT 3 HOURS LATTER THAT THEY HAD OUT ON EXPERMENT DAY WE HAD TO GO SHOPPING AND GOT A GLIMPS OF THE WATTER PORING INTO THE ATMOSPHERE THEY WERE DOMPING GALLONS PER HOUR IN THE SKY JUST REMBER TAKE THE UMRALLA WITH YOU

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1330 6/12/2004 7:57:53 AM 6/20/2004 Barrett J. Wolf bear@bearpaws.com Brake Light Switch I have been getting my '72, 31' Ford 391, ready for this summer and I am just about set, but I noticed that the brake lights don't work - I've replaced the tail lights with new school-bus dual filament units.
Two questions:
1) If I ground the left-hand tail light, both sides light up. Is that just because they are wired together? Seemed kinda odd.
2) Where in the heck is the brake light switch??? Nothing under the dash and nothing visible through the cutout for the brake master cylinder.

Any ideas? - Thanks!!