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01-26-2009, 08:00 PM
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GVWR and GAWR Information
I would be interested in learning what the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating and Gross Axle Weight Ratings are for various year model and length Newells.
If you have access to your VIN plate or still have the information for a Newell you previously owned, I would appreciate it if you could list your coach year model, length, coach number (if 1990 or above it is at then end of the VIN), GVWR, and GAWR for front, drive and tag (if applicable).
Thanks to Linda, I know that their 1979 Newell had a GVWR of 30,500 pounds, a front GAWR of 12,000 pounds and a rear GAWR of 18,500 pounds.
I also know that some of the early 1990's with tag axles had a GVWR of 45,200 pounds, with a GAWR of 14,200 pounds for the front, 21,000 drive, and 10,000 pounds for the tag.
I know that by 1999, the front axle had been increased to 17,640 pounds on at least some coaches (thanks Tuga).
According to FMCA Magazine, the 2006 they tested had a GVWR of 59,580 pounds, with front axle of 18,180, drive of 26,400 and tag of 15,000.
According to Newell's website, beginning with coach 1251 the GVWR is 63,600 pounds, front axle of 18,700, drive 28,600, tag 16,000.
THANKS!! I will share this information (no names) and other information I have regarding Newell's from 1967 to present with those that attend the mini-rally in Austin in April.
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01-27-2009, 11:37 PM
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Michael,
1999 Newell w/2 slides, 45', coach # 512.
GVWR
Front axle GVWR 17,640
Rear Drive GVWR 24,000
Rear Tag GVWR 10,000
Total GVWR 51,640
I know that you have the front GVWR, but I just thought I would provide you with the rear GVWRs.
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Tuga & Karen Gaidry
1999 Newell 45 w/2 slides
Coach #512
2005 Pilot
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01-28-2009, 02:48 AM
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1982 Newell 36'
VIN# 1N9602173C1011008
I'm assuming that my GVWR axle ratings are close to that of the 1979 Newell you mentioned. My actual loaded GVW is just under 30,000 lbs.
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01-28-2009, 06:06 AM
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ours is coach #236 1990 38'
GVWR 40,760
GAWR front 14,320
GAWR rear 26,440
no tag axle
tom
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01-28-2009, 09:21 AM
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Thanks guys!!
Anyone else care to contribute?
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01-30-2009, 11:47 PM
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Coach 390, 1995
GVWR 46000 Actual 40920
Front
GVWR 14000 Actual 13860
Rear 23000 Combined Actual 27060
Tag 10000
Actual is with full fuel and full fresh water
The name plate is also states with 11R24.5 tires at 120 front, 110 Drive, and 100 Tag
I do not currently run the metric Michelins on the frount which would increase the front rating slightly.
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Richard Rhonda Ty and Alex Entrekin
1995 Newell # 390 DD Series 60, Allison World Trans
Subaru Outback toad
CoMotion Tandem
Often wrong, but seldom in doubt
Rhonda's chronicle https://wersquared.wordpress.com/
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01-31-2009, 02:01 AM
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Richard, I changed over to the 305/75R24.5 and Newell was willing to rerate my front GAWR to 15,600# as I was told that the front axle was tire limited. I got the Michelins which were expensive but are very good tires. You are close enough on your front axle weights that you might want to consider that change next time you need tires. Since I live in my coach, my actual axle loadings are significantly higher than yours.
Thanks for data. Good to have some Series 60 data.
Anyone with a late '90 or early 2000 care to add information to the discussion?
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01-31-2009, 08:40 PM
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#139 Gvwr 45,200 FRONT 13,200 DRIVE 22,000 TAG 10,000
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87 Newell Tag 40'-8v92TA-HT740 #139
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02-04-2009, 04:31 PM
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Member
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Michael,
coach #130 is a 1987, 40', 6v92
GVWR 35,200
GAWR Front 13,200 with 11R24.5 Tires - 8.25 Rims @ 120 PSI cold
GAWR Drive 22,000 with 11R24.5 Tires - 8.25 Rims @ 110 PSI cold
I am not certain what the tires have to do with anything, but that's what the plate showed, so I included it.
Larry P.
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02-04-2009, 05:00 PM
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Hi Larry,
the tire size and pressure is actually very important. each tire size has a different load capacity based on what pressure is run in it. the higher the pressure (up to rated maximum) measured at COLD, the higher the load capacity.
tom
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