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Old 04-22-2013, 02:09 AM   #1
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Default A bit of remodeling

I started disassembly this week!!
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Woo! I'll be following along to see how it goes!
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Cool. Looks like you have a little grandson helper too?
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:53 AM   #4
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This looks to be somewhat extensive. You obviously know what's going on.
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Hey right on! I guess you figured out how you are going to re-arrange things? Is your plumbing going to work out how you wanted ?
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Looking forward to seeing your changes.
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Yes that is my Grandson, Nick. He's a lot of fun. I hope he has as much energy when he is old enough to use it effectively!!! The layout will be similar to The coach in Album 6 in 1993 coaches of the Newell Showcase. I'm planning on taking Keith's advice and move the fridge to the curb-side. Ahead of the fridge will be the kitchen/sink food-prep area as in Album 6 coach. the shower will be just behind fridge then a linen closet just aft of shower ahead of bedroom. The mid-located bunks will stay on driver side. The toilet will be just aft of the bunks with the lavatory just aft of the toilet. The plumbing will be a challenge but I'm fairly certain I have it figured out. I am trying to learn what I can about Laminate (Formica or Wilsonite) I would like to find some realistic wood-grain patterns but have not found what I like yet. I also have to learn how to apply it!!!
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Just wanted to touch on choice of high presuure laminates. Working with these products there is many choices. In my mind formica and arbourite are at the bottom of the scale of laminates. Moving upward my next choice would be wilsonart then two others I can not think of at this moment, then the best out there in my mind is Nevamar. Clearly the best. My choice in contact is Latex. Most of the time it comes in a green can and says covers 3 1/2 times more than other brands. It acctually does. It costs about $80.00 per gallon so most people shy away from it because other brands are only $30.00. If you have not purchased laminate before it comes in 4x8 and 5x12 sheets. Cuts easily on a table saw to get to approx size. Once glued into position my choice is a flush cut router bit with a roller bearing to keep it just slightly away from contact from other laminate ect. Finish edge with a fine bastard file then a wood block with 120 garnet paper.
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I had no clue that there was that big of a difference in quality. I went with WilsonArt, mainly because they had a large assortment of samples at Home Depot and I was able find a sample that matched what I already have installed. I was able to check with natural, incandescent and fluorescent light to make sure it was a good match. Nevamar has a great selection online, but I'm not real confident that my computer monitor is color accurate.
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Looking Good Dean, Keep up the hard work and those pictures coming Progress is a beautiful sight.
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What a great project started here. This one will definitely be excited to follow along with what Keith has going. Way to go Dean and I like your little helper too. Reminds me of little grandson Seth who is 7.

Mike, that is great information on the laminates and I will reference this for when I start my next laminate project. I have only used the scoring and router methods to cut the stuff, do you use a fine tooth blade with a CZ insert on the table saw? And is there any lifting problems do to the material being so thin while cutting it on a table saw or maybe raising the saw blade way up might work well enough?
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Always nice to have a helper. I wish I still had the energy that young little people have.
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Just wanted to touch on choice of high presuure laminates. Working with these products there is many choices. In my mind formica and arbourite are at the bottom of the scale of laminates. Moving upward my next choice would be wilsonart then two others I can not think of at this moment, then the best out there in my mind is Nevamar. Clearly the best. My choice in contact is Latex. Most of the time it comes in a green can and says covers 3 1/2 times more than other brands. It acctually does. It costs about $80.00 per gallon so most people shy away from it because other brands are only $30.00. If you have not purchased laminate before it comes in 4x8 and 5x12 sheets. Cuts easily on a table saw to get to approx size. Once glued into position my choice is a flush cut router bit with a roller bearing to keep it just slightly away from contact from other laminate ect. Finish edge with a fine bastard file then a wood block with 120 garnet paper.
So does this stuff bend easy? or do you have to use a heat gun or something?
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They ship it rolled up, but not that tight a roll, and it springs flat when you cut the string. If I was going to attempt a curve I would definitely use a heat gun.
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The other laminate I was thinking of earlier is Pionite. Excelllant upper end laminate. The latex glue I use is Lepages 3X the coverage. As to the cutting Ken I tossed the old curved carbide laminate knife out the door 10 years ago. The table saw works great. Normally I use any meamine blade or any good quality 40 to 60 tooth 10" blade. Normally keeping the blade no higher than a 1/2 inch above the surface. I have a huge table around mine keeping the entire sheet flat but if you don't have this option a good helper is perfect. I will normally mark my area with a black marker, then free hand the cut, or if using the fence make sure to add a 1/4" or 1/2 inch strip of plywood against fence so the laminate does not slide under fence when the pass is made causing grief. Yes laminate does bend very easy as some of us know with the curved radius areas in our own upper cabinets in our coachs.
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Does anyone use upholstery marine type vinyl or cloth for panelling?
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Keith, because it comes in wider rolls it will cover from floor to ceiling. I have some pictures here on the site on how I did the walls.
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The bunk areas and soffits on my 93 had a very nice suede material over a 1/4" layer of foam.
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The bunk areas and soffits on my 93 had a very nice suede material over a 1/4" layer of foam.
I think that would really add to the looks and the feel of and interior, even for a contrast color with a laminate. Like maybe a 3 or 4 inch strip around a window, or a strip or panel above a dinette or a sofa,
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HoosierDaddy I will be following your remodel. God Bless your grandson for helping his Grandpa, What a cutie pie!
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