Newell Classic Flourescent Light Fixtures

[encantotom]

a few points of clarification. for the past number of years i have worked on chips for TV's and set top boxes etc. so i know enough to be dangerous.

LED tv's are a marketing name and is quite confusing. they use the same LCD panels, it is just the BACKLIGHTING that is LED. so you cannot equate low power tv's with LED TV's, though they will be some lower. you just have to look at the power consumption of each tv and make a judgement. i just looked up some power specs. a current model panasonic 42" plasma tv consumes 79 watts, a panasonic 42" led tv is 45 watts and the LCD 42" is 80 watts. they are not exact apples to apples but close.

the power could change based on the sound system etc of the tv. if it has wifi built in etc.

tom

[RussWhite]

Robert,

Please feel free to forward the picture via standard email:

russwhite at earthlink dot net

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Hardtrigger

Russ will do. Just to let you know the lighting is like 300% brighter and burns very cool. I am going to replace 100% of all lights and televisions to LED and anything else I may exchange for LED"s for my intentions are to get away from crowds and boondock like 75% of the time out there( 3 months ) and want to reduce battery consumption. Will post pic and info right away! Be great to find a LED coffee maker (just kidding ). Robert

[RussWhite]

Robert,

Lool at this link and let me know if this is what you did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-HJGuxUwqI

Almost all of my 10 watt holgens are no variable voltage controllers for dimming. Have you tried dimming your led's - I'm wondering how or if that would work.

Thanks,

Russ

[encantotom]

i dont see why they wouldnt dim. the regular strip lights i have dim just fine.

tom

[RussWhite]

Tom,

That's good news. Usually when you just lower the voltage to an led it just goes out. So I think I can assume the dimmers we have are PWM and just modulate the time that full voltage is applied. Wishing I had not bought quite so many halogen spares now

[GORDON HUMMEL]

Russ
That G4 replacement shown in that Utube vidio is the same ones I installed some time ago.
They were $4.00 each from HK including fgt.

Regarding dimming LED's I just received a strip of 5050 RGB 60 leds/m. This included a controller. I temporarly installed them in my PS cove, where I had previously installed a strip of 3528 white leds 60 leds/m. I used a DPDT switch so I could go back & forth between the different strips.
There are 2 buttons on the controller to lower & increase the light, so yes, they are dimable, at least thru the controller.
Also of interest, when I reduced the light, the power consumed when down. That surprised me. At full power, they consumed 1 amp more than the 3528's did. At 1/2 power they consumed the same as the 3528's, but put out less light. That surprised me. At 3/4 power, they put out the same light as the 3528.

Also of interest, when power is removed from the RGB controller and restored, it comes back on in the mode it was in when turned off. In other words, you can leave the RGB remote control set for white which would be normal usage for me, and control the on/off with the original Newell rocker switch. The RGB control would only be needed when you wanted different colors.

I've ordered some 5050 RGB 30 leds/m Which I think will be sufficient. Will advies when I receive.

[encantotom]

i picked up some 5050 rgb 30 led per m when i was in china this week.

i didnt think of using the rgb's for the lights in the coves. i may do that in the back.

i could drill a small hole for the IR reciever to poke through.

tom

[encantotom]

for only 5 or 6 dollars the controller is fairly sophisticated and included a remote. you can choose from a number of modes and alot of different color combinations.

i have been playing with them on my bench using a 12v bench power supply.

i have 5050 white 60led per meter, 3528 white 60led per meter and 5050 rgb 30 led per meter to experiment with.

plus the IR controller for the RGB.

tom

[Hardtrigger]

Russ, no I replaced the old halogen with a standard looking bulb with two prongs just similiar to the halogen then snapped the light facia back on and walaa done!

[Capnted]

I just completed taking 3 cranky florescents out of my '83 and replacing them with warm white led ribbons. The light's about the same, there's nothing to it and the cost is ridiculous. I bought a roll of 16' for $23. (The three fixtures were 6' long). I just went back for more and the same roll is now $8. They have a built-in pressure sensitive backing, so I glued mine to a 3/8" wide strip of thin aluminum from the hardware store and screwed that to the board that the fixtures were attached to. I thought that would be better than trying to stick them to wood.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00..._ya_os_product

Haven't tried a dimmer yet.

[chockwald]

Thanks Capnted.....just bought 2 16' strips!

[Brad Townsend]

What about these being twice as bright, a litte bit more money but I am wondering if they would to bright or better. Clarke did you run one strip or two?

<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VXFK0I/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative =9325&creativeASIN=B003VXFK0I&linkCode=as2&tag=aff iliatechie-20">LEDwholesalers 16.4 Feet Doubl Density Flexible Light Strip with 600 SMD 3528 White 6000k 12 Volt, 2052wh</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=affiliatechie-20&l=as2&o=1&a=B003VXFK0I" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />

[Capnted]

IMHO, you can pay $50 for 16' of the double-density or $8 for the single and lay 2 strips side/side. Somewhere i saw that the 5050 led is more efficient, but I'm not an expert.

You can cut these every 2" and solder new leads to them (or buy a $6 connector.)

I'm not selling these, but i am excited. I've been watching LED's for a long time for RV's and boats & this is the first really flexible and economical application I've found. I'm going to wrap them in loops inside a metal shade 110v reading lamp to convert it to 12v. Also going to lay multiple strips in the recess for the ceiling fluorescents to convert them. Having too much fun!

Also looking at the color-changing ones for party time. Have emailed the vendor to see if the controller is 12v.

[Capnted]

Originally Posted by chockwald

Thanks Capnted.....just bought 2 16' strips!

Great. let me know what you think.

[Capnted]

Originally Posted by encantotom

for only 5 or 6 dollars the controller is fairly sophisticated and included a remote. you can choose from a number of modes and alot of different color combinations.

i have been playing with them on my bench using a 12v bench power supply.

i have 5050 white 60led per meter, 3528 white 60led per meter and 5050 rgb 30 led per meter to experiment with.

plus the IR controller for the RGB.

tom

Tom--

Is this the kind of controller you bought?

<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IJFAMW/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&cr eativeASIN=B004IJFAMW&linkCode=as2&tag=affiliatech ie-20">LEDwholesalers IR Remote Controller 44 Keys for RGB LED Light Strip</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=affiliatechie-20&l=as2&o=1&a=B004IJFAMW" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />

[encantotom]

that is it exactly

[encantotom]

hi all,

i spent all of last week replacing ALL of my flourescents and downlights and closet lights.

i have 14 ceiling flourescents (10 12" and 4 18") and 6 of the 4' and one 2'. and 11 downlights.

when i get a chance i will post pictures. the light inside is amazing and the total power savings averages out to about 75 percent.

i used a combination of strip led's.

1. 5050 with 60 led per meter i paid 30 bucks per 16 foot strip

2. 3528 with 60 led per meter i paid 10 bucks per 16 foot strip

3. 5050 RGB with 30 led per meter i paid 20 bucks per 16 foot strip

i took the entire fixture out of the bus. then i stripped all the guts out. then i used aluminum tape and lined the inside of the fixture to made a reflector.

for the front ceiling flourescents i used a strip of 3528 on each SIDE of the fixture. darlene didnt want to see the led's.

for the ones where you couldnt really see them well (under things) i used a single 5050 in the center pointed down. it draws about 400ma for a 12" strip. the 3528 draws 150ma per 12" strip so 300ma per fixture.

for the 18" i used 5050 single strips. it draws 600ma

for the 4 foot and 2 foot ones in the coves i took the cove front off. i built a platform out of wood about 6" high and put a single strip of 3528 the entire length.

the lights are awesome.

underneath the kitchen counter at the kickplate at floor level i put the 5050 rgb with a controller. they are hooked to the aisle light switch.

they go on and off with the switch. you can change colors or flashing, strobing etc with the remote. i mounted the control unit under the sink. just open the door under the sink and point the remote at it.

i also replace the round 906 wedge bulbs under my coves. all 11 of them now draw less power than a single 906 bulb before with better light.

i more than offset the power my new house fridge takes from the inverter.

i will post pictures when i can.

tom

[Capnted]

Fantastic! Thanks for the detail. I just ordered two more reels of 5050 ribbon. If the toilet hadn't started leaking and the fridge hadn't quit, i'd have a lot more time to play with lights!

[encantotom]

here are some pictures of what i did.

[Capnted]

Thanks for sharing.