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Old 08-09-2009, 02:08 AM   #41
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Forest,
I am sure that Clarke and Richard were eating some of Connie's or Cindy's Gumbo under the Hockwald's '82. If I had known that they were serving Gumbo I would have been under there as well.
I think that they should have a Gumbo cook-off at the next get together and we can all taste some "Cajun"!!!
maybe the next get-together should be in their backyard in LA?
Tricia and I went through the Colorado National Monument, CO this AM and the Arches National Monument, UT this PM. We are working our way to Reno, NV and then west to Half Moon Bay and on to Pismo Beach, CA by next weekend.... "what are the poor people doing?"
where is Larry?
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:18 AM   #42
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:19 AM   #43
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Made it home about 10:30pm
Never knew a HOT shower could feel so good!
New Raritan should be here next week.
Glad everyone made it home ok.
Hey Matt- how's it ride?
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:36 AM   #44
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Sorry to hear about your water heater Forest. Ours started leaking a few months after we purchased the coach. Had to special order the unit and spent about 3 days without hot water. What a bummer. We used the Insta-Hot, the microwave, and the cooktop to heat water but boy does a hot shower help.
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:42 AM   #45
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We got home after a nice nightime drive home from our cabin in happy jack, az. clarke and elaine should be in flagstaff spending part of the night resting for their final jaunt home. i hope they enjoyed the drive to flagstaff as much as i said they would. it is some very pretty country.

just finished unloading and it is 10:30pm.

had a fun time on all ten days of our trip.

it is the first time i have driven at night for an extended period with the new headlights. they are wonderful.

hope the rest of you get home safe.

thanks to all of you who were at creede for being so kind and gracious to us.

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Old 08-09-2009, 05:26 PM   #46
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I learned something new on this trip from Tom. A portion of the road approaching Tom's cabin is dirt....probably about a mile. When we arrived at Tom's cabin in a cloud of dust, Tom suggested cleaning the radiator's of our coaches after they had cooled down. In addition to the cloud of dust, as I idled behind Tom (while he unhooked the Honda) I began to hear a loud squeaking sound from the rear....it would disappear when I increasd the RPM's, but persisted until I shut down the engine after leveling. In addition to the loud squeaking sound, I had also been concerned with the slightly higher temps my coach was reaching on the trip to and from Creede, CO. When he said this a light when on in my head....maybe this was causing the coach to run hotter than normal. Well, yesterday afternoon, after riding his quads all over the "back 40" (and it was a blast) we first hosed down each radiator from the inside out, and then sprayed them with a degreaser. After a few minutes we then sprayed the degreaser off. I noticed Tom's radiator looked much cleaner than mine on the engine side, and he said he washes it off before each trip. Well, that was news to me, as I had never done this to mine. Before cleaning the radiators Tom had me start up the engine to see if we could find the squeak...all the belts appeared to be tight...well, thankfully, that squeak is no longer in evidence, and did not reappear on our 500 mile trip home.....whew!!! After two applications of degreaser, and spraying the degreaser off mine looked a lot better (Tom also suggested doing the same to the engine, which we did, and wow, does it ever look much cleaner....not as clean as Ron's, though)!!

Well, the proof in this case is definitely in the pudding........on the way home from Tom's home the temps never got above 200 on the engine, and never above 170 on the tranny, even though we had several 10-12 mile climbs. This will become a regular part of my trip preparation....what a relief....I thought I had some major issue developing.

I have read the same documentation Ron cited on our mechanical V92's about the shutdown at 220, etc.

We left Tom's cabin around 6pm last night (Saturday) and had planned to run up to Flagstaff, about 70 miles away, and then hit the sack early, and get up at midnight and make the run home in cooler air temps. Well, we decided to head for Kingman where we would top off the diesel tank, dump the tanks, and then sleep from 11pm to 3am. We left Kingman at 3am, and arrived home at 9am this morning.....was much better breaking that last 500 miles in half. Haven't really driven much at night, so this was a new experience. The coach just purred all the way home, and the temps stayed around 180 only getting up into the high 190's twice on very long climbs.
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Old 08-09-2009, 06:32 PM   #47
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Great info, Clarke. Thank you. I will do the same before each trip now as well. It might be good to mention to folks, that this self cleaning works better with the garden hose than at say a power wash, because the radiator fins are very susceptible to bending, which is never a good thing. Also, periodically, I vacuum the front of the basement air conditioners, which accumulate cotton wood stuff, etc.

Anyways, glad you are home safe, and Tom too, and that we continue to learn from each other.

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Old 08-09-2009, 08:23 PM   #48
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This morning at Creede my outside thermometer read 30 degrees
at about 5 am.

The reason that my engine and radiator are so clean is that the
previous owner sprayed the inside of the radiator with simple
green and let it soak a few minutes and then hosed down the
radiator (and engine also I think) after every trip.

I have only had the Newell for about 6 weeks and this is
my first real trip.
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Old 08-09-2009, 08:31 PM   #49
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Ron, Simple Green is the degreaser Tom and I used.......it is great stuff!!
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Old 08-09-2009, 08:45 PM   #50
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Tom....forgot to mention in my earlier lengthy post.....we thoroughly enjoyed the drive on Lake Mary Road up to Flagstaff.....just breath taking scenery...we were "oohing and awing" all the way...glad we did it while it was light....got into Flagstaff at dusk, and decided to head on to Kingman before taking a 4 hour nap. Got into Kingman at 10:30pm, fueled up, and dumped the tanks.....no sewer backup this time...LOL!! We dry camped behind the local Cracker Barrel....very quiet. My headlights work great at night....and when I hit the "Hi Beam" button, wow they really light up the road!!

Steve......some of the "poor people" just arrived home....the rich people are still on vacation....LOL!!! Enjoy your drive through the Canyon Lands.......wish we were out there with you. As we were turning on to our street I asked Elaine why were were going home.....why not just turn around and keep exploring???? Sure tempted....keep all of us posted on your journey.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:29 PM   #51
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My lovely bride Rhonda usually measures our vacations in tangible ways. Here is her accounting of the Creede trip.

# Newell RV’s attending rally in Creede Colorado – 10 (Bells, Entrekins, Gookins,

Hockwalds, McClouds, Olivers, Russos, Skeens, Wards & Zonkers)

# People who came (because we are such a fun group) even though they don’t own

a Newell – 2 (Nita Zonker & Michael)



# RV’s worked on by Richard – 5 (Entrekin’s generator, Russo’s ride height valve &

shock, Darlene McCloud’s seat, Hockwald’s AC & Skeen’s AC)

# Gashes in Richard’s head – 1 (from a decorative statue in a RV he didn’t even work

on)



# Evenings Richard left the RV door open – 1

# Bugs Alex killed with the fly swatter that night – 56

# Bugs Richard sucked up with the vacuum cleaner – 217

# Subsequent evenings Richard left the RV door open – 0



# Glasses of homemade root beer prepared by Tom – 60

# Glasses drank by Alex – 8

# Laps Alex took around the campground to alleviate the sugar high – 2



# Books read by Alex – 4

# Books read by Rhonda – 1

# Books read by Richard – 0



# Miles Richard rode his bicycle – 80

# Miles hiked by Rhonda – 0 (O.K. my triple broken ankle is not healing as fast as I

would like)



# Times Alex drove the Honda “R” – 5 (it used to be a CRV, but the C & V fell off)

# Learning permits or driver’s licenses held by Alex - 0

# Accidents, close calls or terrified passengers - 0

# Scratches found on my car (borrowed by Ty) when we returned home – 2



# Times the wind blew up the TV antenna on the way home – 7

# Times the big awning tried to deploy while going down the road – 1

# Times the refrigerator door opened up expelling Darlene’s salad and a smuggled

jug of Tom’s root beer - 1
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:43 PM   #52
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Richard, what's up with the main awning trying to deploy? Do you have the ZipDee Travel Latch kit that holds the stainless wrap to the side of the coach? Greatest thing since sliced bread (not as good as Darlene's unsliced bread). http://www.zipdeeinc.com/diagram_windowawningparts.htm part #12 and http://www.zipdeeinc.com/diagram_caseandfabric.htm part #7 for the main awning.
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:38 PM   #53
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Richard....that was a hoot....thanks for sharing. Wow, sounds like you had worse wind than we did. The wind really wears me down, and reduces the fun factor of driving my Newell significantly. Had NO wind from Tom's cabin home, so the last 500 miles were more pleasant, and I arrived home relaxed, and wishing we could drive another 500.....LOL! We had wind from Farmington, NM all the way to Tom's cabin.....first from the starboard, then from the port, then straight at us....wish we could have had a tailwind once!
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:23 PM   #54
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Uh, yes I have the latch kit.

I do believe that one must lock the arms and engage the latch, however, to keep the awning from deploying. I do believe it was operator error :-)


The wind was a crosswind for 780 miles. Got my upper body workout in though.
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I hear that. We have been having some strong gusts of wind lately and I have been having to put up my main awning at some time of the day about every other day.

I remember Wally's awning unfurling in a strong crosswind on the way from Mesa, AZ to Austin for the April Rally. During the rally, he ordered the travel latches for his awnings.
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Old 08-11-2009, 01:04 AM   #56
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Richard,

That happened to us when we first bought the 99. There were no latches; they were all broken off (I failed to notice when going over the coach). So there we were driving to the Newell factory and wham! Both of the Zip Dee awnings that cover the slide outs open up while we are doing 65 mph! Luckily, we didn't break anything.

I pulled over and Louise and I opened the windows and sat on the window sills and re-furled the awnings. Then we lashed them down with nylon tie wraps. It worked until we arrived in Miami and were able to buy some new ones. Thank goodness those windows opened where they did because that was the only way we could have lashed them down.
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:34 AM   #57
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Michael, I have two tie down straps on my awning and I never put it up in the wind. Saturday night we had bad storms and tornado's with winds about 45 mph at our park. The straps held well and there was no stretching of the awning. Without the straps I would have lost the awning and the hardware with it.
I agree with you, if you don't strap it you loose it.
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Old 08-11-2009, 03:55 AM   #58
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just a few days after we got our coach i was off on the maiden voyage of 4k miles. the first day we were driving across I40 in new mexico and doing 75mph in a 50mph crosswind....or maybe it was a 100mph crosswind, all i know is that it was strong....

i learned a few things....first is driving 75 is nuts....

second is those zip dee awnings are STRONG. mine came down at 75mph and flapped like an albatross up and down until i could pull over. it was an awful noise and i was sure it had ripped off.

i borrowed the only ladder in the little town on the freeway and tied it up with a coat hanger.

i promptly bought two of the travel latches, which it didnt have at all to put on the 22 footer.

live and learn.

but it does help to actually engage the latches.

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Mine came with the travel latches, and they work well.....Tom will recall we had to stop after leaving Creede because I forgot to close the latches after putting up the awning. Didn't want to take a chance on the awning deploying. They work well. Have never had a spontaneous deployment whilst on the road.
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Today as we were leaving Ely, NV we came across the Ghost Train. The old steamer was chugging up the hill as our V-6 was getting up to speed. I Blew our Horns and they blew their Whistle. It was quite exciting for this old Prairie Schooner to leave town with the old Locomotive!
The other picture is of the Prairie Schooner on the Prairie, what are the poor folks doing?
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