Brian, I have no idea how you would locate the number of your '87 coach. By deduction, it is likely to have a build date in 1986 and be about three years before the 2000 series were built in April of 1989. At about 30 vehicles per year, you would likely be in the 120-150 range. If you find any build documents in your documentation at is in that range, you might be able to narrow it down. Otherwise, unless Newell can help you, I don't know that you can narrow it down any further.
Brian - I own an '87 and the coach number is #130. I found the number on the bottom of the floorplan, which accompanied the coach. I was not certain what the number was and called Newell. They verified that 130 was the coach number according to a relatively new numbering system they were using at the time.
I cannot remember for sure, but I believe the coach was order in April, 1987 and after several modifications it was delivered to Johnny Rutherford in August, 1987.
Larry, could you confirm that your 1987 model was 'built in August, 1987'. My coach lists a date of manufacture of March 1991 and the Certificate of Origin was dated March 29, 1991 and it listed on the Certificate of Origin and the VIN plate as a 1992 model. I also know that coach 1258, a 2009 model was completed on or before February 1, 2008.
I would have expected a 1987 model to be completed in August of 1986 rather than 1987.
funny thing happened, I have been trying to find my coach number on our 87 build date november 86. was cleaning up the engine bay and written in pencil on both sides on the bottom of the doors was left #139 and right #139 what luck!!! Brian.
87 Newell Tag 40'-8v92TA-HT740 #139
I stand corrected. The floorplan indicates the order was placed 4/7/86 and Revised 8/27/86. Not 1987 as I had earlier reported. The plate on the wall next to the driver seat carries a date of July, 1986. Ordered in April, started manufacture in July and delivered in August???
Larry, thanks for the update. Those dates make sense. The date of July, 1986 indicates that the coach was substantially completed in July, 1986. Based on the time to build, I would suspect that work began on the coach not long after the 4/7/86 plan date. It is not unusual for a owner to make changes during the build process. It is also not unheard of for the owner to make additional changes when they arrive to pick up the coach or may even return the coach for additional changes after it is picked up initially. That would likely be why the Revised 8/27/86 date shows on the floorplan. Without the Certificate of Origin, you would not know the delivery date.
For example my floorplan was dated 2/1/91 with revisions 2/14/91 and again 9/17/91. The changes in September would have been after delivery as it had 56 miles on it on 3/29/91. In my case the floorplan date of 2/1/91 may not be the actual date of order. Even at that time, going from order to completed coach in less than 2 months would have been surprisingly fast.
Tony, your coach was built before the 'new' numbering system was implemented in 1983 so a coach number that would be relevant to later coaches is virtually impossible to determine. What we do know is that your coach was built about mid point between the beginning of construction of Newells and the point where the 'new' numbering system began in 1983. Since there were 384 coaches constructed prior to 1983, it would be safe to assume that your coach was in the first 180 Newells built.
Deciphering the VIN numbers on the pre-1990 coaches is not easy. There are few if any folks left at Newell that can decode them.
I doubt that Newell even has anyone left on staff that could decode those numbers. Back in the 70's and early 80's every company just made up their own Serial (VIN) numbers. Likely the last three digits of the motorhome number is the size of the engine.
Prior to 1983 when the 'new accounting system' started counting coaches at '1', there is no way to determine a coach number other than knowing that there were 384 coaches built between 1967 and 1983. You are fortunate to know that your coach is certainly in the first 120 Newell's ever constructed.
there is no way to determine a coach number other than knowing that there were 384 coaches built between 1967 and 1983. You are fortunate to know that your coach is certainly in the first 120 Newell's ever constructed.
I guess we can collect vin's and then figure them out like my being the same year i would be high or lower in the last digit i would think. Is there any info on how many a years were made 1967,68, etc
I have not been able to determine any specific data from Newell regarding the number of coaches built per year in the 60's, 70's and early 80's.
There were an average of about 30 coaches per year being built during the 1983-1986 period.
During the first 16 years of Newell, 1967 - 1982 there were 384 Newells constructed. That would average about 24 per year BUT the first year or two were lower production so the average for the later years might be closer to 26/year.
I know newell keep's a history on there motorhomes they charge per hour to look for them, I wonder if maybe a group of us could work on getting it in to a database so newell owners could search there own coaches information. I would help out no problem i just dont want to spend $500.00 for a history if it was 5 hours to find.
Our Newell was ordered in 1971 and completed in 1972. I contacted Newell earlier this year after we purchased her and was told that the last 2 digits of the serial number represented her build number. Jessica France at Newell told us that ours was the 96th Newell built. Jessica was able to also provide the original order sheet and drawings for the coach showing that it came with a Ford 391 industrial motor as would seem to be indicated by the last digits of the MTR.NO. on the build plate located next to our main entry door. A picture of that plate is attached below.
That's really too small to read so here's what it says:
MTR.NO. 21085 S25HG 391EHD
SER.NO. 3F30 S5196
Bob and Peni
the Carole Ann